[Rhodes22-list] Virus???

[Mark Kaynor]

Rik,

Earthlink is definitely better than a lot of them. I don't use my Earthlink
address at all - I only have it so I can use the account to get online over
a dialup when I'm traveling. No one knows it, it's not listed anywhere. Yet,
all the spam I receive in my "home" client comes from the Earthlink address
(I use Outlook for both my home and Earthlink email). I'd automatically
trash it all except that sometimes Earthlink uses the address to contact me
regarding my account. So I run SpamBayes, instead. Works like a charm.

Mark


-----Original Message-----
From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
[mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org]On Behalf Of Rik Sandberg
Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2004 10:26 AM
To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Virus???


Thanks Mark,

I'll look into those links, although if they're written in technospeak,
they my just fly right over my head :-)

Funny, my default email address is through earthlink, and I get hardly any
spam at all through it. And, it's not like I am all that careful about
where I surf. I buy quite a bit of stuff on line, so I'm sure my address is
out there in plenty of places. Now Sandy, on the other hand, had a hotmail
address that was so choked with spam that it was virtually unusable. I
finally convinced her to drop the darn thing, 'cause it was more trouble
than it was worth.

Rik


At 08:52 AM 4/14/2004, you wrote:
>Rik,
>
>Linux rocks! I've been working w/ it off-and-on since kernel 0.82. The
>overwhelming majority of virii, Trojans, and worms are directed at
Microsoft
>products. That combined with the fact that Microsoft's default security
>settings have historically been a joke makes for bad news for Windows users
>and good news for you. To be fair, however, MS does seem to be paying more
>attention to security lately w/ various federal agencies beginning to raise
>Cain (raze cane <g>?) about it.
>
>R.e. spam - your ISP probably has a lot to do with it. That and avoiding
>posting your email address on web sites, etc. I run my own email server at
>home and get very little spam from there. I also have an account w/
>Earthlink - I get tons of spam at that email address. I am listed as owner
>or technical contact on many domains - the spammers "harvest" email
>addresses from wherever they can find them, including DNS records. I get
>tons of spam at work. Seems like I read recently that about 60% of all
email
>is spam these days.
>
>As an aside, I recently received an offer to buy over 300 million email
>addresses that were supposedly harvested from eBay - probably not true, but
>it could be - I don't have the time to check out every piece of spam that
>our spam filter catches. I took a quick look at this one, though - enough
to
>see that the email originated from a domain run by a guy with an American
>sounding name in California, but owned by someone with a very Russian
>sounding name in Belarus.
>
>And it's way more than just spam or email virii you have to be concerned
>with. What if Pay Pal or eBay had a customer info security leak? Personal
>information stored online is a big, big concern. Seems like almost every
day
>some bank or insurance firm (or one of their outsourcing companies) has a
>security breach or a laptop or drives or backup tapes stolen that contain
>thousands or hundreds of thousands of customer records including SS numbers
>and account numbers.
>
>If you're interested, an excellent resource for this sort of news is the
>SANS Privacy Bits newsletter - it comes out weekly and contains
>privacy-related news from sources world-wide -
>http://www.sans.org/newsletters/privacybits/. Sometimes the editorial
>content is a bit much, but the collection hard news is excellent.
>
>The same can be said for my other two favorite resources for security
>issues, also from SANS -
>
>NewsBites http://www.sans.org/newsletters/newsbites/ and
>
>@Risk http://www.sans.org/newsletters/newsbites/
>
>They can be a bit technical, but they'll certainly give you a realistic,
>non-alarmist view of what's happening out there in Internet security land.
>It can be a pretty scary place....
>
>Mark
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
>[mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org]On Behalf Of Rik Sandberg
>Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2004 9:38 AM
>To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Virus???
>
>
>Thanks Julie and Michael,
>
>I really don't worry too much about it for myself. I generally run K-Mail
>and
>Firefox in Xandros(linux) for most of my online stuff anymore. These don't
>seem as vunerable to these attacks, from what I have seen. I do wonder
>though, if it is possible for one of these to get into my email and spread
>this stuff around without me knowing it. Even though it probably can't do
>much to hurt my computer, I do worry that I may inadvertently be spreading
>stuff that would do harm to folks still using MS stuff.
>
>I do have a firewall (2 actually hardware and softwear) and run f-protect.
>In
>almost a year of using Xandros(linux) I have yet to have found any kind of
>virus in it, other than a script I put in myself, to make sure the virus
>checker was working.
>
>Those of you who are tired of all this crap, might consider giving Xandros
a
>try. It's pretty "windows like" as far as using it goes. For me, the
>iinstall
>was very simple and quick. There are only a couple of things I need to turn
>on MS for at all, anymore. Though it is not free, @ $89 IIRC, for what you
>get, compared to MS prices, it is incedibly cheap.
>
>Next question: How is it that some talk about getting 50 or a 100 spam
>messages a day, and I get hardly any???? Am I just that special? :-) :-) Or
>is this something to do with the difference in ISPs, maybe??? I haven't
>changed my email address in several years.
>
>Rik
>
>
>On Wed, Apr 14 2004 07:37 am, Michael Meltzer wrote:
> > that is correct sir :-)
> >
> > ever since "I love you", the writew try to "pick" subject and content
that
> > will tick you into clicking, part of the problem is ms it self, long ago
> > they should have stopped premitting this type of attachment to be
> > clickable, the problem is the setting stops all attachments so on one
sets
> > it.
> >
> > MJM
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Rik Sandberg" <sanderico at earthlink.net>
> > To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2004 2:34 AM
> > Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Virus???
> >
> > > Michael,
> > >
> > > Lately, I've been getting a ton of what appear to be undeliverable
> > > returned e-mails.......that I didn't send and don't recognize the
>address
> > > on. They have some kind of attachment, which of course I haven't
opened.
> > > Is this the newest scam to get us ignorant old farts to open a virus
> > > attachment???
> > >
> > > Keep your eyes open guys. Seems there's a new trick every day.
> > >
> > > Rik
> > >
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