[Rhodes22-list] Virus???

Thu Apr 15 19:49:04 EDT 2004

sounds good, next thing you know you have them signing, "We follow the RFC song" :-)
MJM

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mark Kaynor" <mark at kaynor.org>
To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 9:13 AM
Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Virus???


> I called tech support earlier - they're going to do it for free, hopefully
> today. It's so much better dealing directly w/ them w/o involving the front
> office <g>.
> 
> Mark
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org]On Behalf Of Michael Meltzer
> Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 8:54 AM
> To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Virus???
> 
> 
> i adgree, thats a lillte to much, why not have your mailer forward it
> thought the ISP, It a 2 line hack to sendmail.cf or
> postfix/main.cf, basicly use a smart host forwarder macro for outgoing,
> nothing should change on the inside clients, leave incomeing
> alone(i.e. the mx)
> 
> 
> MJM
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mark Kaynor" <mark at kaynor.org>
> To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 7:20 AM
> Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Virus???
> 
> 
> > Michael,
> >
> > Yeah, I've been meaning to do that for a while. My ISP wants an additional
> > $10 / mo for it, though, so I've been putting it off - I hate making
> monthly
> > payments for one-off stuff - all they have to do is add the record, and
> > that's it. I've got the servers  at work using reverse lookup, though, and
> > really do need to bite the bullet and get it implemented for my home
> stuff.
> > Thanks for reminding me.
> >
> > Mark
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> > [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org]On Behalf Of Michael Meltzer
> > Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2004 8:17 PM
> > To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Virus???
> >
> >
> > speaking of that, could you set you set up a PTR (reversedns) for IP
> address
> >
> > Received: from kaynor.org (unknown [216.12.36.150]) .......
> >
> > I am about to start rejecting email based on that, not to mention aol, rr
> > and cox most likely are rejecting you.
> >
> > MJM
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Mark Kaynor" <mark at kaynor.org>
> > To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2004 9:52 AM
> > Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Virus???
> >
> >
> > > Rik,
> > >
> > > Linux rocks! I've been working w/ it off-and-on since kernel 0.82. The
> > > overwhelming majority of virii, Trojans, and worms are directed at
> > Microsoft
> > > products. That combined with the fact that Microsoft's default security
> > > settings have historically been a joke makes for bad news for Windows
> > users
> > > and good news for you. To be fair, however, MS does seem to be paying
> more
> > > attention to security lately w/ various federal agencies beginning to
> > raise
> > > Cain (raze cane <g>?) about it.
> > >
> > > R.e. spam - your ISP probably has a lot to do with it. That and avoiding
> > > posting your email address on web sites, etc. I run my own email server
> at
> > > home and get very little spam from there. I also have an account w/
> > > Earthlink - I get tons of spam at that email address. I am listed as
> owner
> > > or technical contact on many domains - the spammers "harvest" email
> > > addresses from wherever they can find them, including DNS records. I get
> > > tons of spam at work. Seems like I read recently that about 60% of all
> > email
> > > is spam these days.
> > >
> > > As an aside, I recently received an offer to buy over 300 million email
> > > addresses that were supposedly harvested from eBay - probably not true,
> > but
> > > it could be - I don't have the time to check out every piece of spam
> that
> > > our spam filter catches. I took a quick look at this one, though -
> enough
> > to
> > > see that the email originated from a domain run by a guy with an
> American
> > > sounding name in California, but owned by someone with a very Russian
> > > sounding name in Belarus.
> > >
> > > And it's way more than just spam or email virii you have to be concerned
> > > with. What if Pay Pal or eBay had a customer info security leak?
> Personal
> > > information stored online is a big, big concern. Seems like almost every
> > day
> > > some bank or insurance firm (or one of their outsourcing companies) has
> a
> > > security breach or a laptop or drives or backup tapes stolen that
> contain
> > > thousands or hundreds of thousands of customer records including SS
> > numbers
> > > and account numbers.
> > >
> > > If you're interested, an excellent resource for this sort of news is the
> > > SANS Privacy Bits newsletter - it comes out weekly and contains
> > > privacy-related news from sources world-wide -
> > > http://www.sans.org/newsletters/privacybits/. Sometimes the editorial
> > > content is a bit much, but the collection hard news is excellent.
> > >
> > > The same can be said for my other two favorite resources for security
> > > issues, also from SANS -
> > >
> > > NewsBites http://www.sans.org/newsletters/newsbites/ and
> > >
> > > @Risk http://www.sans.org/newsletters/newsbites/
> > >
> > > They can be a bit technical, but they'll certainly give you a realistic,
> > > non-alarmist view of what's happening out there in Internet security
> land.
> > > It can be a pretty scary place....
> > >
> > > Mark
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> > > [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org]On Behalf Of Rik Sandberg
> > > Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2004 9:38 AM
> > > To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> > > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Virus???
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks Julie and Michael,
> > >
> > > I really don't worry too much about it for myself. I generally run
> K-Mail
> > > and
> > > Firefox in Xandros(linux) for most of my online stuff anymore. These
> don't
> > > seem as vunerable to these attacks, from what I have seen. I do wonder
> > > though, if it is possible for one of these to get into my email and
> spread
> > > this stuff around without me knowing it. Even though it probably can't
> do
> > > much to hurt my computer, I do worry that I may inadvertently be
> spreading
> > > stuff that would do harm to folks still using MS stuff.
> > >
> > > I do have a firewall (2 actually hardware and softwear) and run
> f-protect.
> > > In
> > > almost a year of using Xandros(linux) I have yet to have found any kind
> of
> > > virus in it, other than a script I put in myself, to make sure the virus
> > > checker was working.
> > >
> > > Those of you who are tired of all this crap, might consider giving
> Xandros
> > a
> > > try. It's pretty "windows like" as far as using it goes. For me, the
> > > iinstall
> > > was very simple and quick. There are only a couple of things I need to
> > turn
> > > on MS for at all, anymore. Though it is not free, @ $89 IIRC, for what
> you
> > > get, compared to MS prices, it is incedibly cheap.
> > >
> > > Next question: How is it that some talk about getting 50 or a 100 spam
> > > messages a day, and I get hardly any???? Am I just that special? :-) :-)
> > Or
> > > is this something to do with the difference in ISPs, maybe??? I haven't
> > > changed my email address in several years.
> > >
> > > Rik
> > >
> > >
> > > On Wed, Apr 14 2004 07:37 am, Michael Meltzer wrote:
> > > > that is correct sir :-)
> > > >
> > > > ever since "I love you", the writew try to "pick" subject and content
> > that
> > > > will tick you into clicking, part of the problem is ms it self, long
> ago
> > > > they should have stopped premitting this type of attachment to be
> > > > clickable, the problem is the setting stops all attachments so on one
> > sets
> > > > it.
> > > >
> > > > MJM
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Rik Sandberg" <sanderico at earthlink.net>
> > > > To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2004 2:34 AM
> > > > Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Virus???
> > > >
> > > > > Michael,
> > > > >
> > > > > Lately, I've been getting a ton of what appear to be undeliverable
> > > > > returned e-mails.......that I didn't send and don't recognize the
> > > address
> > > > > on. They have some kind of attachment, which of course I haven't
> > opened.
> > > > > Is this the newest scam to get us ignorant old farts to open a virus
> > > > > attachment???
> > > > >
> > > > > Keep your eyes open guys. Seems there's a new trick every day.
> > > > >
> > > > > Rik
> > > > >
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