[Rhodes22-list] Lou's new yacht

[John Tonjes]

Lou,
Raz is David Razberry. He lives in SC and sails on Lake Hartwell.

Rummy

>From: Lou Rosenberg <lsr3 at MAIL.nyu.edu>
>Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Lou's new yacht
>Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2004 12:41:53 -0400
>
>>Bill,
>>  Thanks for the posting about the varnish!  I am such a pack rat even on 
>>the net I save anything related to things Idont own yet but Now I can 
>>really start collecting tidbits b/c I am such an iMPatient sob when it 
>>comes to varnish and coating wood.. Besides my workshop needs to be pumped 
>>out from time to time  ( an exaggeration!) due to bad drainage backyds.
>
>so my varnishing will begin in the late fall after hurricane season and 
>before the flakes fly in Bklyn.
>    I will try to refurbish the tiller.. Not worried about the electrical.. 
>and Casey's book is great for those issues as well.
>  Who is RAZ?
>   does he own a photography studio in Mineola by any chance?:)
>
>   Lou
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>>
>>Can you move your replies above what you are replying to?  It makes it 
>>easier for the rest of us, and more people will read what you have to say.
>>
>>Boat electrical systems are easy.  There isn't that much in them. The only 
>>problem is that they have changed the color of the wires, so most boats 
>>are now a hodge-podge, and you can't look at a colored wire with any 
>>certainty that it will or will not be the ground wire.
>>
>>A long time ago I hand rewired a car--no wiring harnesses.  Now, that was 
>>a challenge--and one I will not try again.  But boats? It's a pain to work 
>>under the seats and inside the gunwales, but you don't have to worry about 
>>connecting the brake light switch to the license plate light.
>>
>>With regard to the tiller, following is something I posted a few years 
>>ago.  I still love to varnish my tiller, and do so every year. It still 
>>looks great.  I think you can also find this in the Rhodes FAQ, along with 
>>other helpful postings on varnishing:
>>
>>This topic seems to always come up at this time of year for understandable
>>reasons.
>>
>>Never having varnished anything in my life, I filed everything in "Does 
>>Not
>>Apply To Me" (read "Delete") the first year I was on the list.
>>
>>Last year Rummy brought it up again, and after a dozen replies went to 
>>West
>>Marine and bought whatever the pretty sales girl told him to buy.  I 
>>thought
>>it was just another example of that song "When The Little Head Does The
>>Thinking", but Rummy reported he was very happy with the outcome.
>>
>>The only exterior wooden brightwork on my boat is the tiller which, by 
>>that
>>time, was so ratty-looking I had ordered another from Stan.  Figuring I 
>>had
>>nothing to lose, I decided to follow the advice on the list, and attempt 
>>to
>>strip down and varnish my tiller.  I was astonished at the results.
>>
>>If Raz's work rates a 10, and Rummy's is a 9, then mine would be a 7.  
>>When
>>the tiller arrived from General Boats its varnish rated a 2.
>>
>>I loved my tiller every time I looked at it or touched it.  It was simply
>>magnificent in my humble opinion.  The project was perhaps the most
>>satisfying thing I did all year.  It still looks and feels great.  I can't
>>wait to put on a fresh coat of varnish as soon as it gets a little warmer.
>>I'm looking for other things to varnish around my house.
>>
>>The single most useful posting came from Raz.  I followed his directions,
>>and wound up feeling enormously relaxed. Following is his post from last
>>year:
>>
>>"I highly recommend thinning oil based varnish with marine Penetrol, which
>>is
>>a polymerized boiled linseed oil. The mix that works well for me is about 
>>a
>>tablespoon of Penetrol to 1/4 cup of varnish. That's about the right 
>>amount
>>to do a real good coat on a tiller and it brushes out like a dream. Unlike
>>solvent thinners this will not degrade the varnish coat. Pettit recommends
>>thinning their varnishes no more than 10% with solvent and that only for 
>>the
>>first bonding coat on bare wood. I use straight Penetrol for the first 
>>coat.
>>The instructions on the Penetrol can outline the whole process. I have 
>>never
>>had a varnish finish lift from moisture penetration using their process. 
>>The
>>trick to a good varnish coat is to use a premium chinese boar bristle 
>>brush
>>well loaded with varnish and thoroughly brush out each coat. Any slight
>>brush marks will level out and disappear as the varnish cures. It takes at
>>least 3 coats of undiluted varnish to build a thick enough finish to last
>>through a couple of years of marine exposure.   If  I am starting with 
>>bare
>>wood I do at least 6 coats, allowing each coat to completely dry for at
>>least  24 hours, sometimes several days if the air is humid.The penetrol
>>does lengthen the drying time between coats. I lightly wet sand with 220
>>grit wet or dry paper between coats using water with a few drops of dish
>>washing detergent or Murphy's oil soap added. Wet sanding is faster and
>>keeps the varnish from getting soft from over heating due to the sanding
>>friction. The object is to just remove the gloss without taking off any 
>>more
>>varnish than you absolutely have to to get rid of rough spots and
>>imperfections.  A few minutes before you are ready to recoat, wipe the 
>>wood
>>down with a rag wet with thinner and allow that to completely dry off.
>>Before the very last coat, I wet sand with 400 grit. It took 3 weeks last
>>year to do 6 coats on my Compac tiller, but its only a couple of leisurely
>>hours per coat including the sanding and cleanup. The end results were
>>spectacular. I'll have to start over this year with a new tiller for the
>>Gloucester, sigh. Actually I really enjoy this process, its sort of like 
>>Zen
>>meditation to me."
>>
>>Thanks, Raz. I'll follow the maintenance instructions to the letter.  I
>>really did enjoy the process as much as the outcome, and it was a lot like
>>Zen meditation.  I've been looking forward to the maintenance all year.
>>
>>Bill Effros
>>
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: Lou Rosenberg
>>To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
>>Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2004 7:37 PM
>>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Lou's new yacht
>>
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>>
>>On Tuesday, August 10, 2004, at 04:26 PM, ed kroposki wrote:
>>
>>>  Lou,
>>>
>>>       You have not told us about the motor.  Does the motor work?  How
>>>  about
>>>  the battery?  Does it have a VHF (radio)?  Cockpit cushions?  Pop top
>>>  cover?
>>>  Since you have a couple of days before you move, fill in the details.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>       Does the tiller need refinishing?  How about the bright work?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>  Ed K
>>>  ***********
>>Ed K and all Rhodes owners out there,
>>   thanks for all the support !
>>   Had to give in to the boat yard that has possession of my R22 until
>>next wk, as they "demanded" that i use their shop and services to
>>obtain new rims and tires for my Triad circa 1980 trailer.   I balked-
>>and ran out to my local tire shop but found out I would need the actual
>>rim to match up for the correct fit.  the trailer is 62 miles away in
>>Pt Jeff!!  I could have saved $150. but that $ was the $ I was warned
>>by the (R22 ) former owner to expect to pay to get my boat out of his
>>yard.
>>   Boat Yards ! blasphemy! ( expletive deleted!)
>>
>>   The deal included a Mercury 7.5 hp with an electric start and a tank. 
>>An extra dolphin plug? for the tank to motor.
>>    I prefer to have a Johnson or Honda or Yamaha 9.9 and will try to
>>parlay my current Merc into one of those models before I launch in
>>April.
>>
>>   the rigging is a mess . WOrn out in some places and the traveler was
>>not even set correctly to do anything but the entire rig was just set
>>up in the spring for show purposes anyway.
>>   I definitely want IMF and will save my bottle tops and stop giving my
>>recycling to the homeless asian women in the neighborhood.    ( only
>>kidding)
>>IF any sailors out there  want to sell an extra mast with IMF I am
>>interested!!!
>>
>>   Aside from some rain damage to my cushions due to a leaky portlight,
>>the inside is fairly in good shape but very old and needs work.
>>   I  will scan the archives and ask  around later for schematics on the
>>electric system.  As a pro videographer and steadicam operator we have
>>to be able to wire 12V systems all the time and i have done a few crazy
>>things in my life to get out of jams but have never wired a  boat
>>before.
>>
>>   Yes the tiller needs refinishing any suggestions?  I would just
>>replace the wood and go from there..
>>   The teak inside will eventually get changed too.
>>   The companionway door was replaced with a nice pc of  tinted lexan
>>which looks neat!
>>   No radio , I will invest before doing any cruising or serious sailing.
>>
>>   Joined BoatUS yesterday and will most likely get there insurance.. any
>>recommendations??
>>
>>   I hope to trailer back to Brooklyn where I am already booked for the
>>winter and beyond at Gateway Marina, Flatbush ave in waters that I have
>>sailed since childhood.
>>they say you cannot go home again, but when I get this boat sailing the
>>way I want to  I plan to arrange a landing at Miramar Yacht Club where
>>my late father kept his Ensign when he died.
>>   thanks all for your humor and support
>>   Lou
>>
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