[Rhodes22-list] Is there a Rhodes 22 in northernOhio thatwecansee?

[stan]

sorry Bill - I accidentally read your e-mail (a storm related incident) and
immediately raised the price.

also, it dawned on me if I responded to your e-mail, it would get reprinted.

stan/gbi

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bill Effros" <bill at effros.com>
To: <sanderico at earthlink.net>; "The Rhodes 22 mail list"
<rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Sent: Saturday, August 14, 2004 8:42 AM
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Is there a Rhodes 22 in northernOhio
thatwecansee?


Karen,

I was referring to the Rhodes.  It's interesting to me that anyone else has
thought of those puzzles--I always thought I was the only one who even
remembered them.

The Rhodes has an enormous amount of space for a boat it's size.  The
mistake most people make (myself included) is, as Rik says, filling the
space because it's there.

I have spent the last 5 years removing stuff from my boat.  Anything I
didn't use last year goes. (With the exception of essential safety gear.)
I'll bring it back if I ever need it.

This leaves me with a much larger "hole".  Which makes the puzzle easier to
solve.

For 1 or 2 people a Rhodes 22 can be configured to have as much living space
as a 30 ft. boat.  You can sleep on a larger, and far more comfortable bed,
you can have a larger, more comfortable galley, you can have a larger more
comfortable dining area, you can have a larger more comfortable cockpit.

But you can't have them all at the same time.

The design of the boat is brilliant.  (Stop reading Stan!--this is not for
your eyes.)  Everything does at least double duty.  For example.  The dining
table top is stored under the fore deck when not in use.  It will never fall
on you, or hurt you, no matter what the conditions--if you rolled your car
with the boat on your trailer while doing 70 mph, the table top would remain
right where you put it.

The table top fits on a post which can be inserted either into a socket in
the cabin, or a socket in the cockpit.  The table top can be turned either
athwart or the other way--whatever that's called--depending on where you
will be seated, or what you will be doing.  The socket on the bottom of the
table is not centered on the table.  Turn the table one way and it's more
comfortable for eating, turn it the other way and it provides counter space
while you're cooking.  You can install the table in the cockpit and continue
to sail the boat.  At night the table top fits into the cabin, without the
post, to provide the support for a very comfortable bed where the standing
space for the galley used to be.  The cabin seatback cushions rotate and
change positions to form the rest of the "mattress".  You don't see it
coming--everything fits perfectly--just like when you were a child and you
first solved the puzzle.  If you liked the puzzle, you'll love the boat.

Everything on the boat is like this, and it will take you years to discover
all the tiny little things built into the boat for your comfort and
enjoyment.  Another small example.  On my boat the swim ladder flips up to
become part of the stern rail.  Flipped down, just like the puzzle, it
leaves a hole in the railing for you to exit the boat--no climbing over the
rail--with strong side rails to hold onto when ascending and descending the
ladder.  This solution is so simple and elegant you quickly forget it is not
standard issue on every boat.

The mistake people make is not realizing that when you try to perform these
maneuvers over extended periods of time, or with more than 1 or 2 people on
board, playing with the puzzle becomes a lot less fun.  The other mistake
people make is thinking that they are going to spend extended periods of
time sleeping on board with other people.  If you've got a couple of kids
think seriously about bringing a tent (you've got plenty of space to bring
one aboard) anchoring in ankle deep water (the Rhodes can be brought right
up to the beach) and letting the kids sleep and play on shore.  Most people
find that they infrequently sleep on board as a practical matter--whether
they have a 60 ft. boat or a Rhodes 22.

For me, the R-22 is the perfect sized boat.  I can easily have 6 people on
board for day-sailing.  I can comfortably sleep 2.  I can carry as much as
want for extended trips.  It's fun to sail, I never look for a "crew" and I
never worry about hurting myself, in even minor ways, while I'm on board.

Bill Effros



----- Original Message ----- 
From: Rik Sandberg
To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
Sent: Saturday, August 14, 2004 12:18 AM
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Is there a Rhodes 22 in northernOhio
thatwecansee?


Karen (and Bill)

It's simple.....bigger boat = bring more stuff = bigger boat = bring
more stuff = bigger boat........ We need to break this viscious circle
or any boat is eventually going to remind us of one of those little
puzzles. Have you ever owned a garage that was big enough after it was 2
years old??

I don't own an R22 anymore, but I found that for storage space(s), the
R22 was tough to beat in it's class.

For Sandy and I, 4 adults on our R22 on an overnight would have been a
crowd. We didn't have a boom room or cockpit filler cushions. I think 2
adults and a couple (not too big) kids would be OK. For a daysail, 4
adults would be no problem at all. Definitely get the pop-top enclosure.
It works great and is very easy to set up.

As far as sailing goes, the R22 is a very good sailer, heavy enough for
tougher weather, yet still quite nimble in light air. Points pretty
well. Deals with large waves or power-boat wakes with hardly a wiggle.
Nice DRY ride. VERY easy to single hand. I think you will find it
compares VERY favorably to your Potter for both performance and space.

I do miss many of the features on our R22 as I am sailing on our new (to
us) boats. :-)

Rik,
R22 alumnus, formerly S/V "Country Rhodes"
S/V "Happy Little Girls 2", PS Flicka
S/V "Just Little", M-15

Karen Johnson wrote:

>Bill,
>Are you talking about the Rhodes or the Potter, because we have compared
our
>Potter to one of those puzzles, which is why we need more space!
>
>Karen
>----- Original Message ----- 
>From: "Bill Effros" <bill at effros.com>
>To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>Sent: Friday, August 13, 2004 10:37 PM
>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Is there a Rhodes 22 in northern Ohio
>thatwecansee?
>
>
>Ron used to be on this list.
>
>The boat always reminds me of those old plastic puzzles with 8 numbered
>tiles and a hole, where you slide the tiles to create empty spots into
which
>you slide other tiles until you achieve the order you seek.
>
>It's a funny dance, and you'd better like your partner.  But the boat won't
>hurt you, and all the pieces fit well.
>
>Bill Effros
>
>
>----- Original Message ----- 
>From: Karen Johnson
>To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
>Sent: Friday, August 13, 2004 8:06 PM
>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Is there a Rhodes 22 in northern Ohio that
>wecansee?
>
>
>
>The boat is Katy Doyle in Minesota.  The owner is Ron Finelli.  It is a
1986
>boat, so it is older, but it appears Ron has kept it up.  Our main concern
>is how much space the cabin has, since that is the primary reason we want
to
>upgrade.  I have just too many bruises from my Potter!  My tow vehicle is a
>Ford F-150 Supercrew.  It is only 2 wheel drive, but with the V-8 it should
>haul a lot of rum!
>
>Karen
>
>
>
>>Karen,
>>I'm sure one of our illustrious owners from your area will contact you,
>>
>>
>but
>
>
>>why wait? Just go buy the boat. Take my word for it, you'll love it.
>>By the way, which boat is it and where is it located? We might know the
>>owner and could help lower the price.........for a fee of course. How much
>>
>>
>rum
>
>
>>can you haul in your tow vehicle?
>>
>>Rummy
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