[Rhodes22-list] Weather and lee helm

Jim Connolly jbconnolly at comcast.net
Sun Aug 15 22:10:35 EDT 2004


>From the luff out to the clew, the jib furls counterclockwise (IIRC).  The
two jib cars are set in the same position on the track.  The mast was
straight when I launched her in July, but I didn't check it yesterday.  I
also have not noticed this condition prior to yesterday.  

Jim Connolly
s/v Inisheer
'85 recycled '03

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Sent: Sunday, August 15, 2004 8:04 AM
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Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Weather and lee helm


There are some inherent asymmetries in the R22 that can be disconcerting.
It always annoyed me that Pilot Star would not float "on her lines" at the
dock, because of the offset weights of the battery, motor, gas can, water
tank and other gear.

The changing fairlead of sails off the jibstay and out of the IMF mast slot
does cause some difference in relative power between port and starboard
tack.  If you are sailing a recycled boat, don't bet that paired stays and
shrouds are necessarily the same length until you measure them; such things
can get mismatched over time.  Somebody already mentioned making sure the
mast stands straight in the boat.

Still, it's hard to imagine any of that making a big difference in handling
between tacks.  You've got a real stumper there, Bunkie.

<G>

----- Original Message -----
From: "Peter Thorn" <pthorn at nc.rr.com>
To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Sent: Saturday, August 14, 2004 10:18 PM
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Weather and lee helm


> Jim,
>
> Does your furler furl clockwise or counter-clockwise?  Is is correct that
it
> unfurls counter-clockwise (looking down from the masthead)?  If so, could
> the smoother leeward side of the furled headsail on starboard tack present
a
> more powerful headsail and thus more lee helm?  On port tack, with the
> windshadow of the furled luff casting back many inches on the leeward side
> of the Genoa and disrupting the leeward flow over the sail,  would not the
> sail then develop less drive -- and thus less lee helm?
>
> ??
>
> PT
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Jim Connolly" <jbconnolly at comcast.net>
> To: "'The Rhodes 22 mail list'" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>;
> <rhodes-list at sailnet.net>
> Sent: Saturday, August 14, 2004 9:44 PM
> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Weather and lee helm
>
>
> > Ahoy list,
> >
> > While out today in some gusts, I buried the rail a couple of times and
> > decided it would be a great time to try reefing and balancing the boat.
I
> > did not achieve balance.  What I did achieve was some pretty good lee
helm
> > on starboard tack, and slightly less weather helm on port tack.  It
wasn't
> > my imagination.  I trimmed the sails in and out on both port and
starboard
> > tack for several tacks, and it was repeatable.  The traveler was on the
> > centerline.  Foot of mainsail was tight.  Topping lift was loose.  Jib
was
> > furled to about 100% (clew just aft of forward lower shrouds).
> >
> > All the way home, I tried to visualize what might cause this.  My
> intuition
> > fails me.  Any ideas?
> >
> > Jim Connolly
> > s/v Inisheer
> > '85 recycled '03
> >
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