[Rhodes22-list] Block Island

[stan]

I can see Rummy's point - does everyone know that he is talking about 
another boat and not a Rhodes 22 - which could have made the trip there and 
back without him.

While I am in a responding mood, thanks Bill but I think taking bets is the 
better way to go.  Per Lou Rosenberg's confession, if he had accepted god's 
bet on what was the cause of his seats "cracking" sound, MY reward system 
would have worked.

stan/gbi

mjm original message:

> She did fine, outbound, 15 gusting to 25, 5 foot sea after the point, 
> spent most of the time on a single reef. the boat not blue
> water. Inboand was a pain, it was only 15 knots winds but the couse was 
> pretty close to windard and the crop from the currents had
> her pounding, ended up tacking just to quearter the waves, she a little to 
> full up frount. Ended up motoring most of the night just
> to advoid the waves and because of the tight lanes. after 5 days I will 
> tell you hot water is great, a good stove and room for 5 is
> nice. 1200 pounds keel keep her on her feet 18hp desial worked flawless. 
> Down side thier seat cushsions suck and it can wat ride if
> it gets rought, also the jusrry is still out on the rudder 
> balance(tracking).
>
> MJm

>> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Bill Effros" <bill at effros.com>
> To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Sent: Saturday, August 28, 2004 10:38 AM
> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Consulting
>
> Lou,
>
> Stan is in the business of building and rebuilding boats.  That's how he 
> earns his living.  Every time he helps people on this list
> for free he hurts his business.  There is no money in it for him to try to 
> compete with West Marine in the portlight and caulk
> selling business.
>
> As you have discovered, the cumulative wisdom of people on this list is 
> not always correct.  If he were business smart, Stan would
> let competing boat rebuilders spend a lot of time and money messing up 
> their boats to the point where they would come on the list
> and say "Don't make all the mistakes I have made--buy your boat from 
> Stan!"  But that's not who he is, and we all know it.
>
> We also know that most of the people who ask for free advice or "borrow" 
> his intellectual property don't see the harm in what they
> are doing.  My question to you and others is how can we pay Stan for the 
> services he provides?  I'm sure everyone sees the value in
> this, but no one has proposed a fair method short of buying boats from 
> him.
>
> I know people who earn a living consulting on how to apply the methods I 
> describe in my book, How to Sell Your Home in 5-Days.  I
> have no problem with that, as long as they always make it clear that what 
> I had to say is in the book, and that I don't endorse
> either them, or what they have to say.
>
> People pay $100 an hour to get advice over the telephone, and $5,000 for 
> someone to come to their homes while they are in the
> process.  Would you pay Stan for the advice he now gives for free?  Would 
> you pay someone else on the list?  Would others?  Would
> you pay Stan to do all the things you now must ask him how to do?  Would 
> you pay others?
>
> When Stan goes, all this knowledge goes.  If there is no money in Stan's 
> business, no one will continue it when Stan tires of it.
> We are 200+ people with a vested interest in maintaining this knowledge 
> base.  Every time one of our more active members moves on to
> another boat or another hobby we lose information and the ability to 
> correct misinformation.
>
> Our FAQ information is great but conflicting.  Newcomers want to get it 
> from the horse's mouth.  They don't want to sort out a lot
> of conflicting opinions.  They simply want to know the right way to do 
> things.
>
> Somebody must pay the price for this.  Who will it be?  What is a fair 
> method?
>
> Bill Effros