[Rhodes22-list] Rhodes Wanabes and Lurkers

[ed kroposki]

	Why are the interiors a problem?  Because people do not close the
slide hatch or the companion way cover. It rains and they fill with
rainwater.  
	Furthermore, the boats have numerous fittings and screws.  The
sealants around such loosen with use and time.  As Lou has shown, these
seams allow for water infiltration.  In the last ten years, numerous new
sealants have come out that were simply not available in the 1970's to deal
with this recurring problem.
	While wood may last for centuries under good circumstances, its life
can be shortened to less than one year under the wrong conditions.  That
includes treated wood, whereas FRP lasts much longer.
	Why are there an increased number of boats this year?  Because they
have survived 30 years already.  They are an inherently good and useful
design.  Even in poor condition, the boat design by Phil Rhodes is still
pleasing to the eye.  
	Herb has pointed out that many people have started to refurbish
boats, only to start and not finish.  Too, finish it takes time, work,
correct materials and the appropriate equipment.  As Sir, Stanley likes to
say, 'boat building is labor intensive'.  Boat rebuilding is doubly labor
intensive.  However, the work can keep us from going nuts from other
societal problems.
	I commend Lou with sticking to this arduous task. This 'List' has
offered discussions and solutions to the problems presented.  Those of us
following these have benefited.  Don Casey is probably following these
discussions to write his next book.
	This spring when Lou puts his boat in the water and the sails fill,
it will be he who sits back with that feeling of high achievement.  

Ed K
Greenville, SC, USA

	  


-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Herb Parsons
Sent: Friday, December 10, 2004 5:26 AM
To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Re: Rhodes wanabes and List Lurkers

I'll take a stab at answering that one. It's not definitive by any
means, since I only observed one instance, but I think it makes sense.

My brother got his Rhodes 22, and probably 70% of the interior wood was
rotted beyond use. It was all still there, but any real pressure, and it
would obviously fall apart. The first thing he did was dismantle it all
to use as templates to rebuild it. My guess is it took him 3-4 hours to
remove EVERYTHING except the main bulkhead and the compression post.

Fortunately, he had the money to buy quality marine grade plywood
(Okume), and the time to replace it all.

So, I wonder how many people get these boats, decide to replace the
interior, tear it all out, and then lose interest before they finish? 

Herb Parsons

S/V O'Jure
  1976 O'Day 25

S/V Reve de Papa
  1971 Coronado 35


>>> cen09402 at centurytel.net 12/10/2004 4:07:23 AM >>>
Stan,

We do seem to be blessed with an unusually high number of "project"
boats
this Christmas season don't we?

Do you have any idea how many boats from the pre GBI built era might
still
be out there?

I don't understand why so many boats seem to be coming on the market
with
their interiors gutted.

Roger Pihlaja
S/V Dynamic Equilibrium

----- Original Message -----
From: "stan" <stan at rhodes22.com>
To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Sent: Friday, December 10, 2004 3:38 AM
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Re: Rhodes wanabes and List Lurkers


> RHODES WANABES AND LURKERS:
>
> If you want the creative fun of doing what Lou Rosenberg is doing,
make
sure
> you buy a
> non-recycled, non-built General Boats Boat.
>
> General Boats
> 114 Midway Drive
> Edenton NC 27932
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Lou Rosenberg" <lsr3 at MAIL.nyu.edu>
> To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2004 1:49 PM
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] CB trunk surgery
>
>
> > Rummy, Steve, Roger ( not necessarily in that order);
> >  Due to the narrow area I m going to be working in, I doubt I can
> > effectively lay up the mat cleanly enough.   we are talking about 
a gap
> > of less than 2 inches in width at most parts of the trunk.    I
really
> > feel that adding the thickened epoxy will give me enough support. 
I
also
> > need to be concerned about keeping the trunk width uniform and
even.
> >  thanks for your concern
> >   Lou
> >
> >
> >>Lou,
> >>Depending on the size of the area you are removing/repairing, I
would
> >>consider using fiberglass mat. It adds tremendous strength to the
repair.
> >>
> >>Rummy
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