[Rhodes22-list] RE: IMF/gennie recommend

[Jay Friedland]

Mark-
Actually just getting back from your neck (Swope/Staunton, VA).

I haven't had the same problems with either Doyle, City Island, for the 
UPS, or Doyle Offshore, with luff pad and higher clew, and would like 
to work through Stan, if possible. The luff tension sounds good, 
although mine currently runs full length on the CDI with a downhaul.

I assume with long life (originals ?), standard dacron for the main or 
a more stretch resistant an option? Because of the relatively short 
life (6 years w/care- hosing with fresh water, and not excessive 
over-powering), I'm thinking split panels such as the tri-radial or 
upgraded dacron. You guys race, is that stretch anything you considered?

Can I assume that Mack has all the dimensions he needs for a 150% 
gennie?
Thanks for your respone.
Jay

On Thursday, January 29, 2004, at 01:42  PM, Mark Kaynor wrote:

> Jay,
>
> We had a 135% Genoa made by Doyle (I'm thinking it was made by their
> Caribbean loft) and are pretty happy with the sail. We sent our 175% 
> in to
> Doyle City Island to have a luff pad added, and they screwed it up. 
> Ugly
> seams, puckered sunbrella, a mess. Had to send it back to get them to 
> fix it
> and we're still not very happy with it. If we had it to do all over 
> again,
> we'd have all the work done by Mack Sails in Ft. Pierce, FL
> (www.macksails.com).
>
> Last summer our old 1988 main tore at the sunbrella near the clew. We
> repaired it, but then decided we needed to bite the bullet and get a 
> new
> sail since the old one was pretty baggy. We had visited Bob and Kathy 
> Quinn
> last spring and took a look at the main Mack Sails had made for them 
> several
> years ago. We were quite impressed by the quality and workmanship, and 
> Bob
> and Kathy had nothing but good things to say about the sail and the 
> company.
> We decided to have Mack make one for us, too.
>
> We had the clew cut about 10" higher than the original Lee sail, 
> enabling it
> to wrap on the furling tube w/o building up and binding at the base. At
> their suggestion, we also attached a stainless eyelet to the base of 
> the
> furling tube, just above the furling assembly. We then ran a line 
> between
> the tab at the tack of the sail and the eyelet so we could adjust the 
> luff
> tension w/o having to stretch and drill - sort of like a downhaul.
>
> If I recall correctly, the total cost was about $425 or $450. The sail 
> is
> great - very well built, excellent workmanship. We're very happy with 
> it,
> and we really enjoyed working with Colin Mack. We finally got a chance 
> to
> meet him at the SSCA gam in Melbourne, FL last November. He's a good 
> guy. If
> you contact him, let him know I sent you.
>
>
> Mark Kaynor
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org]On Behalf Of Jay Friedland
> Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2004 12:15 PM
> To: stan; The Rhodes 22 mail list
> Subject: IMF/gennie recommend, was [Rhodes22-list] some one has a virus
>
>
>
>
> Begin forwarded message:
>
>> From: Jay Friedland <a.jayf at verizon.net>
>> Date: Thu Jan 29, 2004  12:13:20  PM America/New_York
>> To: stan <stan at rhodes22.com>, The Rhodes 22 mail list
>> <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>> Cc:
>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] some one has a virus
>> Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>
>> Stan, and list-
>> My 150 Gennie shows signs of sagging, and racing friends are saying
>> it's time to replace. Doyle recommended a low stretch dacron as
>> opposed to standard OEM fabric, with dacron UV cover to reduce weight
>> on the sail.
>>
>> What are the latest recommendations for very heavy use - 6 years on
>> current doyle?
>> Tom had recommended bi-radial to reduce stretch. Doyle nows does a
>> tri-radial design for lighter weight/ more strength ratio as an
>> upgrade to the low stretch dacron.
>>
>> Any and all recommendations welcome, folks. Average winds here 12-15
>> kts.
>> Thanks,
>> Jay
>>
>> On Thursday, January 29, 2004, at 11:28  AM, stan wrote:
>>
>>> speaking of viruses reminds me to respond to Rummy's e-mail
>>> concerning his
>>> ordering a new IMF main sail.
>>>
>>> First I think anyone ordering another IMF main should get the reports
>>> from
>>> those who actually own the new IMF mains with batten.
>>>
>>> Second, sails from other suppliers do not have the proprietary cut
>>> that
>>> avoids the bottom of the sail from piling up and wrinkling and being
>>> harder
>>> to handle.  If you do not want the batten and do not have the
>>> wrinkling cut
>>> problem, fine.  Price wise the new IMF sails and those from other
>>> sailmakers, from what Rummy was quoted, seem to be the same.
>>>
>>> Not doing this to sell sails - just don't want any owners to get any
>>> madder
>>> at us for not speaking up, than they already may be.
>>>
>>> stan/gbi
>>>
>>> PS:  If anyone is going to the Chi Show on Thursday, the Rhodes will
>>> be
>>> there under its road snow but Elton and the 26 won't make it until
>>> Friday -
>>> something to do with his trying to take advantage of the weather to
>>> try
>>> skiing with a van, trailer and a big boat.
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Michael Meltzer" <mjm at michaelmeltzer.com>
>>> To: <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2004 8:40 PM
>>> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] some one has a virus
>>>
>>>
>>> Please people check you pc, some one has the latest virsu going
>>> around, I
>>> seeing it in the mail logs,
>>> update and run your software.
>>>
>>> here a free checker (an frankly you should buy and run anti-virus
>>> software)
>>> http://us.mcafee.com/root/mfs/default.asp
>>>
>>> MJM
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