[Rhodes22-list] Michael's Option List for Seaward 26RK

Robert Quinn rjquinn at bellsouth.net
Tue Feb 3 11:01:34 EST 2004 

Michael:  Your "options list" would indeed make the vessel a "top ender" and
I would probably choose most of them myself.  The larger cleats - a must.
The stainless ports really would make her "shine."  The instruments would be
a necessity depending on where and how you plan to sail.  Prop choices are
always an "issue" but I can see advantages to your potential choices.  The
stove would be a necessity.  I like your "head" choice.  The doors for the
Vee berth and the head would be an improvement.  May have an issue with the
solid door for the head as room is a premium - not enough room inside and
the steps covering the motor would prevent opening out.  The folding door
was okay - may challenge your children for a bit but when they really need
the privacy, they would be able to handle it.   Shower option would be a
must!  Would opt for both an interior shower in the head (wet head) for
cooler times and a cockpit shower for better times.

An upgrade to the cushions would be a must.  Reefing options you desire are
sound.

Going out a distance dictates the mast head mounted antenna for the VHF and
I would add a GPS.

"Think" I would add a second back stay.  Probably not a necessity but I
would be more comfortable with it.

Hope I hit the high points.  We looked the boat over thoroughly (as we
cleaned her up {:>).  She is well built and would make most sailors very
happy captains.

We are still stuck on loving the Rhodes for when we give up the Tartan 37.

Both boats - Rhodes and Seaward - drew considerable interest at the show and
thus Stan and Elton (you too Rose) should be happy campers.

Bob and Kathy on the "NoKaOi"


----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael Meltzer" <mjm at michaelmeltzer.com>
To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Sent: Monday, February 02, 2004 10:45 PM
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Bulb Keel


> You are a good man, I heard a weather report that put the temp at -5 with
a wind-chill to -35, something about record breaking for
> the coldest week, for a person who live in FA, that was far beyond the
call of duty. My Compliments. Also thankyou, I do not think
> eltion could have pulled it off without you.
>
> Now thats is over with :-) what did think of my option list for the 26 and
thier might be some people looking for a daysail in FA if
> they are not already hooked up :-)
>
> MJM
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Robert Quinn" <rjquinn at bellsouth.net>
> To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Sent: Monday, February 02, 2004 10:02 PM
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Bulb Keel
>
>
> > MJM et al:  Michael's summary pretty much tells the story.  When Elton
> > finally arrived he managed to have the boat moved into position early on
> > Friday morning.  We spent the day scrubbing and cleaning up the road
> > dirt/snow/ice/etc.  She cleaned up well and showed her stuff.  We raised
the
> > mast and hanked on the sails Saturday morning just before the show
opened.
> > The boat was the hit of the show with the story bouncing around the hall
and
> > Elton's story board with the pictures of the boat off the trailer and
being
> > hoisted back on to the trailer  The trailer looked pretty good still
some
> > minor alignments necessary.  The van lost a running board and the rear
> > bumper is twisted to the point of only being able to open one door plus
the
> > fuse panel was fried, giving Elton a new career in "jury rigging a
wiring
> > system."  The boat, on the other hand, faired very well.  The rudder
broke,
> > the rudder stock held  with some minor bends at the attachment points-
> > stainless is great, the mast crutch is bent, the prop shaft is out of
> > alignment and one end of the prop is bent.  The bulb is indeed missing
in
> > action but, let me tell you if you were really interested in a solid
> > sailboat along the lines of  a 26 footer, the result of the mishap would
> > clearly send you in the direction of the Seaward 26RK.
> >
> > A friend of Elton's got the R22 to us on Wednesday about 4:30PM.  Kathy
and
> > I cleaned and cleaned and cleaned some more.  We were "run off" around
9:45
> > but we had managed to dig the snow out of the cockpit, spit shine the
hull,
> > and set up the rigging for a "manual lift" (the crank assembly was in
> > Elton's van along with several critical clevis pins which he stores in
his
> > secret spot ((his pocket)).  Late Wednesday night and early Thursday
morning
> > we rounded up pins from two of Elton's buddies and got the rigging ready
> > Borrowed the two friends, plus one, to "step the mast."  Set up the
stairs,
> > cleaned up the deck and cockpit, hung the "Rhodes 22" pendants, etc, etc
and
> > were ready for customers by opening time at 11.
> >
> > Kathy and I got home a few hours ago - exhausted but safe.  Looks like a
> > good show for GB!
> >
> > We had breakfast with Elton this morning before launching for the
airport.
> > He is in good spirits, smile on his face, and looking forward to new
> > adventures!
> >
> > A sincere thanks to the Chicago area "Rhodies" who showed up to cheer us
on.
> > We had a great dinner with everyone on Saturday night.  A wonderful
group of
> > people!
> >
> > Bob and Kathy on the "NoKaOi"
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Michael Meltzer" <mjm at michaelmeltzer.com>
> > To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2004 1:33 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Bulb Keel
> >
> >
> > > here the story as I know it and I do not know if I have all the
details,
> > got it from some quickly phone calls.
> > >
> > > 1)Monday night/Tuesday mooring, Eltion was moving boat north for the
boat
> > show, the seaward26 in this case. remember he needs to
> > > take two boats to Chicago(the rhodes22 was already propositioned 60
miles
> > from the show), The "working under time pruesser" is what
> > > got him, at least in my option, A bad thing to do with sailboats :-)
> > >
> > > 2)That was the night of the storm, about 120 miles north of the plant
on
> > 295, going 50 mph(claims everyone was passing him). road
> > > were dry, so into a turn near a exit ramp and hits black ice(My option
he
> > drove into the frezing rain part of the storm but that
> > > 20/20 hind sight, 120 miles south on the coast the road might have
been
> > fine when he left the plant, my option.
> > >
> > > 3)jackknife, boat trailer/van go spinning, his van loose the running
> > board, trailer looks like it smashed into the side of the van,
> > > trailer very bent up, fount coupler and bar bent to hell, trailer
messed
> > up where is meet the van. boat is flung from the
> > > trailer(remember he in the right lane, boat ends up in the center
strip,
> > 2-3 lane wide road), lands on the keel. Their was some snow
> > > that protected the finish form "road rash" and the only damage is the
lead
> > bulb came off where is landed on it(BTW about 400 pounds
> > > on the 1200 of bassist), not bad at all considering, no crack, no
> > buckheads broken, no hull broken/cracked,  mast hardware fine
> > > etc..., bottom line the boat came thought fine and better than could
be
> > expected.
> > >
> > > 4)"Eltion is Fucked time", Think what you would do:-) it is not
pretty, in
> > the middle of nowhere, van  smashed, trailer smashed,
> > > boat on the side of the road, alot of money invested in a boat and a
boat
> > show. Lots of money flowing to make things happen, OK gets
> > > the trailer into a weild shop and they fix up it up along with the
van.
> > thats tuesday. gets a hold craine services for wednesday
> > > morring to get the boat on the trailer, but they need to close 295 to
do
> > it, calls the cops at first they where delaying for a few
> > > days then he told them he is getting the boat on the side of the road,
> > "You are the boat man", apparently he is famious that every
> > > cop known the story on that strech of highway. He tells them about the
> > boat show and they let him use the crane 900am.
> > >
> > > 5)late and behind time he makes it to the show, but turnes it into a
great
> > marketing optiunity to show how strong the boat is, got
> > > to love the guy.
> > >
> > > MJM
> > >
> > > I am sure thier move but he have fill you in.
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Wally Buck" <tnrhodey at hotmail.com>
> > > To: <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > > Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2004 10:15 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Bulb Keel
> > >
> > >
> > > > So what the heck happened?  Everyone is OK right?
> > > >
> > > > Wally
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >From: Michael Meltzer <mjm at michaelmeltzer.com>
> > > > >Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > > > >To: kroposki at innova.net,The Rhodes 22 mail list
> > > > ><rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > > > >Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Bulb Keel
> > > > >Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2004 15:05:54 -0500
> > > > >
> > > > >I heard stan make a quote, "I guest we should use straps" :-), I
not
> > shore
> > > > >it would have made a difference in this case, I waiting
> > > > >for the pictures but the trailer got turned into a pretzel, spent a
day
> > in
> > > > >the weild shop being rebuilt. The boat would have simply
> > > > >rolled with it attached and then broken apart, maybe sending a beam
> > thought
> > > > >the hull, happened before.
> > > > >
> > > > >MJM
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >----- Original Message -----
> > > > >From: "Kroposki" <kroposki at innova.net>
> > > > >To: "'The Rhodes 22 mail list'" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > > > >Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2004 9:53 AM
> > > > >Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Bulb Keel
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > Didn't we have a discussion about the durability of the Bulb
Keel
> > > > > > recently?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > And I think back, it was Elton who told me that I did not need
cross
> > > > > > boat tie down straps when I got my boat.  Humm?  Would a strap
> > across
> > > > > > the cockpit have been worth the twenty bucks it cost?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~  _/)
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> > > > > >                                      Ed K
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> > > > > > [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Ronald
> > Lipton
> > > > > > Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2004 9:42 AM
> > > > > > To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> > > > > > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Elton's excellant adventure
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Both the Seaward and the Rhodes 22 are being offered at a $2000
> > > > > > discount at the show.  Given what happend the Seaward is in
> > remarkable
> > > > > > shape
> > > > > > with the exception of the bulb keel, which did not survive the
70
> > mph
> > > > > > "grounding".
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Ron Lipton
> > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > From: "Wally Buck" <tnrhodey at hotmail.com>
> > > > > > To: <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > > > > > Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2004 7:53 AM
> > > > > > Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Elton's excellant adventure
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Maybe GB will have a scratch and dent sail, er I mean sale
.....
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Wally
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >From: "keith burkhardt" <mkburk at adelphia.net>
> > > > > > > >Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
<rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > > > > > > >To: <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > > > > > > >Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Elton's excellant adventure
> > > > > > > >Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2004 22:03:57 -0500
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >I just got back from the  chi boat show...Elton had  the
Seaward
> > in
> > > > > > tow
> > > > > > and
> > > > > > > >it slipped offf the trailer ,,,He has great pics of this
> > adventure
> > > > > > and
> > > > > > was
> > > > > > > >able to reload the boat abd got it into the show today...I
looked
> > at
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > >Seaward and there appears very little damage...It was the
talk of
> > the
> > > > > > show
> > > > > > > >and many folks visited the area..reagards keith
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