[Rhodes22-list] R22 rating

Mon Feb 9 17:16:17 EST 2004

Oops- Sorry Wally!  You're the series leader, not Andy- right?

-PT

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Wally Buck" <tnrhodey at hotmail.com>
To: <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Sent: Monday, February 09, 2004 7:34 AM
Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] R22 rating

> Andy & Peter,
>
> My club has always used PHRF but for some reason decided to change this
> year. Last year (my first racing the R22) they had me at 270 for the PHRF
> rating. I tried to get some cxonideration for having IMF main but no go. I
> started late and missed too many races to place well.
>
> This year I am in from the start and I am sailing with a 98.0 Portsmouth
> rating. Again I think this is for the standard main but it is the only
> number to go by. There is a bit of guess work involved in  rating for the
> various wind conditions. There is not enough data on the Rhodes 22 out
> there.
>
> I didn't buy my Rhodes 22 for racing as I am more of a cruiser/camper
type.
> I thought it would be fun to give it a try because I hadn't raced a
sailboat
> in 30 years. I am going to try to stick with it the whole year, we only
race
> once a month with no racein July. So 4 races down and about 27 to go ....
>
> Fair Winds,
>
> Wally
>
>
>
> >From: "Peter Thorn" <pthorn at nc.rr.com>
> >Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> >To: <lessard at fabulousfloors.com>,"The Rhodes 22 mail list"
> ><rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> >Subject: [Rhodes22-list] R22 rating
> >Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2004 07:01:06 -0500
> >
> >Andy,
> >
> >Congratulations on your victory!  And thanks for upholding the racing
honor
> >of all your fellow Rhodies.  Isn't racing fun?
> >
> >US Sailing lists the Rhodes Continental with a Portsmouth handicap of
98.0
> >(D-PN). http://www.ussailing.org/portsmouth/tables03/tables03off-3.htm
The
> >various Beaufort Scale ranges for R22  are left blank in the table,
> >indicating that US Sailing has not collected enough data on the R22
racing
> >against known one-design classes (Thistle is the benchmark) to establish
> >good Portsmouth ratings for those wind ranges.
> >
> >Comparing the R22 D-PN (98.0) to that of my Tanzer 16 (97.5) , and also
> >knowing that an R22 would quickly leave a Tanzer 16 going upwind in any
> >breeze above 8,  I think 98.0 is a conservative handicap the Rhodes.  For
> >R22 racers, that is "a good thing".
> >
> >Is your club racing with Portsmouth or PHRF?  The R22 is of a medium size
> >that could be scored under both systems, but judging from the bigger
boats
> >you mentioned (J33), it might be PHRF.
> >http://www.ussailing.org/phrf/what_is_phrf.htm
> >
> >If it's PHRF, you would have to contact the local committee to learn how
> >they rated you.  Further, if you win often, they will likely consider
your
> >rating "wrong" and lower it - giving others a better chance.  I seem to
> >recall PHRF ratings ranging from 258 to 275 for R22 - but it's entirely
up
> >to the local committee.
> >
> >My R22 "Phoenix" is a project boat on shoring supports waiting warmer
> >weather to begin renovations.  I race a Tanzer 16 from April to October
and
> >frostbite a Starwind 19 keel/cb (see picture below).  Last Saturday we
took
> >the Starwind club racing in Greensboro and had similar conditions to
those
> >you describe (perfect winter sailing for those with the right clothing).
> >Unfortunately, the sailors voted against going out that day - too many
> >centerboard voters.
> >
> >It sounds like you had a great day, though!
> >
> >PT
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Andy Lessard" <lessard at fabulousfloors.com>
> >To: "'The Rhodes 22 mail list'" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> >Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2004 7:41 PM
> >Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Saturday at the races
> >
> >
> > > What handicap rating do you have on the Rhodes 22?
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> > > [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org]On Behalf Of Wally Buck
> > > Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2004 2:22 PM
> > > To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> > > Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Saturday at the races
> > >
> > >
> > > Warning shameless bragging below ....
> > >
> > > We had our February races yesterday. After 3 races in January I was in
> >first
> > > place and I really wanted to do well. The forecast was calling for 20
> >plus
> > > with strong gusts. Temps were supposed to stay in the 30s with a 30%
> >chance
> > > of snow. Saturday morning looked okay so I headed out to the marina.
We
> >only
> > > had 7 boats for the skipper's meeting but everyone voted to go out.
> > >
> > > We had 4 boats in the "A" Fleet (J33, Hunter 34, O'Day 28, and a
> >Seaward
> > > 23. The "B" Fleet included a C30 (crew of 3), Newport 28 (crew of 2),
> >and
> > > me. The A fleet usually has crew of 3 or more and the B fleet is
single
> > > handlers or boats with crew that don't want to fly spinnaker. We
usually
> > > have a bunch more boats in each fleet but the weather kept the sane
ones
> > > home.
> > >
> > > Heading out the weather was fine, a nice wind but nothing like the 20
> >plus
> > > forecasted. As the actual race count down approached the wind jumped
> >from
> >10
> > > -15 to something like 15 - 25. Plenty of white caps now and of course
it
> > > started to snow. I have good gear so I was dry and warm. I started out
> >with
> > > main lowered and furled and my 125 out all of the way. The boat was
> >balanced
> > > but twice gusts had me taking water over the rail. I furled the genny
in
> >a
> > > little more and was fine for the long beat upwind. The Catalina 30
soon
> > > pulled out of the race because they had way too much sail up and the
> >guy's
> > > wife and crew were freaking out. You could hear yelling across the
> >water!
> >So
> > > now we were down to 6 boats.
> > >
> > > I had a great start (first over) but the J33 flew by me. Like many J
> >boats
> > > you sit on the deck. Waves were rolling down the side and they were
> >already
> > > soaked with crew scampering across the deck. I was nice and dry
drinking
> >my
> > > cup of Joe with the CD-player on. After the Catalina 30 pulled out I
> >only
> > > had to stay close to the Newport 28. Well the Newport was forced to
put
> >a
> > > reef in soon after the start so I was able to build a huge lead. The
> >snow
> > > quit and the wind kept blowing. Our windward mark was a big island 3
> >miles
> > > down river for a race total of about 8 miles. For the run home I
raised
> >the
> > > boom and let everything out. I hit 7.3 MPH on the GPS. The A fleet
> >finished
> > > well ahead of me but I finished over 30 minutes ahead of the Newport
28.
> >The
> > > C30 did not finish so I got First Place in my fleet.
> > >
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