[Rhodes22-list] Roger's reply on motor issues

[Jay Friedland]

Ed-
First, I've gone 14 years with no lost motor/mount in the same slip, 
although I lost my recycled '86 R22 in back-to-back of storms in 1995. 
Although Isabel wasn't a major problem this year, we had squalls with 
upwards of 70 mph, weekly over the succeeding weeks in Oct.

The new '97 R22 has the extended mount, and this year I replaced a '98 
Mercury 8hp (2 cycle) with the Yam 9.9. In ocean sailing/motoring, the 
Merc with oversized prop could barely keep me facing into the waves, 
and had no drive.  A sailing buddy, Rob Baldi has a '99 R22 with Yam 
9.9 that easily plowed through 3-4 foot chop with no hesitation, as 
sure-footed as rubber on dry pavement. For ocean and squall situations, 
the Yam was a necessity.

The problem with the extra weight was highlighted this year with these 
series of storms from the west. My slip is exposed across 4-5 miles 
open water from the northwest and west. With 10 hurricane lines on the 
boat, the boat handled the 6-7 foot swells ok, but the motor took off. 
Originally, it was tied down to the mount rail and the stern rail tied 
close to the transom. I have a security cable, and the additional 
mooring lines prevented the motor from ever hitting the water.

The rollers from the '97 vintage motor mount trolley tore out. I 
replaced the rollers by through-bolting them with 1/4-20 and fender 
washers, etc. to the cast trolley. They tore out in the next storm-to 
see 1/4" bolts sheared or twisted like pretzels was pretty amazing. To 
finish off the season I used Rob's trolley which had some stress 
fractures. It was off his boat as he had talked to Stan about replacing 
it. Both are down at the factory for replacement now.

An obvious solution is to get into a more protected slip for the 
off-season (reduced rates), and in season, make the motor more secure 
in its vertical position, never tilted. In season, step one is to 
better secure it to the motor mount rail which is extensively 
reinforced to the transom with 10-12 bolts, and shows no sign of 
giving, so far. The second solution would be the hoist, to lift it into 
the cockpit and secure to the cockpit floor with hold-downs or padeyes.

Roger could best explain the forces of the 125 lb. weight attached to 
the boat by the rollers or rails of the trolley, but it is significant. 
I'm not sure the best way of trolley design, or the best way of 
securing it to the cockpit floor. Unfortunately, no pictures, or 
anything that would show a weakness in design, but I am open to all 
suggestions (normally delayed a day or two on e-mails).

Thanks for follow-up on this.
Jay

On Thursday, February 12, 2004, at 08:27  AM, Kroposki wrote:

> Roger,
> 	Relax.
> 	We are on a different issue.  He asked about using a hoist for
> his motor.  He got back several replies that if he had a lighter engine
> he would not need a hoist.  I doubt that he would change engines to 
> have
> one he could lift.
>
> 	The more significant issue here is why the motor mount keeps
> getting damaged in storms.  Other than the weight comments, this thread
> has not been followed up.  Maybe if it happens again he will post some
> pictures.  Is this just his boat or could it happen to the rest of us?
>
> 	And you are supposed to be doing some research project on corn
> for school aren't you?  We would be interested in a progress report or
> interim summary.  Is this still a go?
>                              Ed K
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