[Rhodes22-list] Steve 2 cycle vs 4 cycle smoke: ad nauseam

[Michael Meltzer]

do not do the Honda 8,  the Honda 8 that most people use is out of production, this 8 is really the Honda 9.9 derated, And the funny
thing the 9.9 is really the old Honda 15hp that was rerated, something about meeting the new CA emission standard moved the engine
rating down one level. the current 8 is very overweight for it size. Check out the motor bill is looking at or the yamaha f8.

MJM


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "bchilds1" <bchilds1 at peoplepc.com>
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Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2004 3:46 PM
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> Thanks. That is a good level.  I am retired from the auto industry and I
> worked on the A/C systems.  The vehicle A/C noise requirement for noise at
> max blower while in recirc is 62 db.  Thus the 58 db is good for an engine.
> Of course there is always the quality of the sound to consider, but Japanese
> engines (Honda and Toyota ) have always lead the way in sound quality.
>
> Does anyone have information on the Honda 8 HP 4 cycle.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Bill Effros <bill at effros.com>
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> Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2004 8:57 AM
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>
>
> Bryan,
>
> The Tohatsu 4 stroke came in at 58db in PS tests.  That's pretty good for an
> outboard.
>
> They sell a remote control unit for their motors that turns on and off with
> a key, and allows you to shift gears and throttle with a single intuitive
> lever which I have mounted on the port stern rail beside my captains seat.
> The set-up is a delight that allows me to keep my eye on the water at all
> times.
>
> I paid for my remote, but I'm quite sure Rummy got one for free--thrown in
> with his motor.  I got my motor cheap and paid a lot for the remote.  We
> probably paid equivalent amounts for the total package -- it's a sales tool,
> but having had it once, I would never be without it.
>
> I have used the Yamaha tiller remote, and while they get an "A" for
> innovative design, in use it is not nearly as intuitive as the 1 lever
> remote.
>
> Bill
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: bchilds1
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> Sent: Friday, February 13, 2004 10:39 PM
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Steve 2 cycle vs 4 cycle smoke: ad nauseam
>
>
> I have always considered the extra weight of the 4 stroke and am thinking of
> replacing by 2 stroke with another 2 stroke. However, like you, noise is a
> major concern.   Are the 4 stroke outboards generally quieter than a 2
> stroke? Are there db specifications for each engine?
>
> What remote control unit are you talking about?
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Bill Effros <bill at effros.com>
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> Sent: Friday, February 13, 2004 11:14 AM
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>
>
> Tom,
>
> As you know, all of us Tohatsu owners are happy with our motors.  They have
> been very reliable.  I am seriously considering getting the 8 hp 4 stroke
> because it is the quietest 4 stroke in it's class and I am planning to use
> my boat in a different way involving more motoring than I have in the past.
> The weight of the Tohatsu is also reasonable--at 81 lbs it's 20 lbs heavier
> than my 8 hp 2 stroke, and 20 lbs lighter than most of the other 8 hp 4
> strokes.
>
> But the noise factor is most important to me.  I already have the remote
> control unit which I think I can move from the 2 stroke to the 4 stroke.
> Otherwise I'll get another--they are worth the price of admission.
>
> Bill
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
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>
> thanks bill...im pretty sure thats what im going to end up with...the suzuki
> looks good too but there are no dealers for service in my area
> best
> tom
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