[Rhodes22-list] ROGER QUESTION?

[Michael Meltzer]

use it in good health, so how did the inpection go?

MJM
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "William P. Barry, III" <wp.barry at att.net>
To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2004 1:02 PM
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] ROGER QUESTION?


> The 326 should still controllable under single captain. Big jump from the
> 22, but the biggest reason is cabin space. With 2 separate berths, A/C HEat,
> and all the other extras hopefully our sailing season will get a little
> longer, and we can add a lot more weekend sailing to our summer agenda. Even
> with rain now the weekend shouldn't be a total loss. Cabin fever won't set
> in as quickly. Especially when it comes to our former process of bringing
> all the canvas home to let dry out.
> 
>     Will
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Michael Meltzer" <mjm at michaelmeltzer.com>
> To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Sent: Friday, February 13, 2004 2:06 AM
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] ROGER QUESTION?
> 
> 
> > I put an other thought, make sure the surveyor, has No connection to the
> boat yard and/or the broker, The broker will never give you
> > someone that might kill a sale.
> >
> > Might be a great deal, OTOH something still is a little strange here, It
> would be interesting to read the paper work that went to
> > the insurance company and the lawsuit, keep in mind someone had to prove a
> case here and thier must be a papertrail, Like what they
> > really were sueing for, and what they were claiming for damages. Somehow I
> would bet that that you never get it.
> >
> > BTW are you real sure you are not buy to big of a boat here? It going to
> have to move on it's hull and simgel handing might be out?
> >
> > MJM
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Russell Miller" <re.miller at att.net>
> > To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2004 7:28 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] ROGER QUESTION?
> >
> >
> > > We will have a survey if it gets the nod.  My understaning from the
> dealer
> > > is the it was exposed to a crude spill from upstream in the river.  the
> > > exposure was external from the water line down to however thick the oil
> was.
> > >
> > > Russ
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Roger Pihlaja" <cen09402 at centurytel.net>
> > > To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > > Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2004 5:13 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] ROGER QUESTION?
> > >
> > >
> > > > Russ &/or Will?
> > > >
> > > > I tried to answer your question as I understood it, "Did exposure to
> an
> > > oil
> > > > spill damage the FRP composite hull or the epoxy barrier coat?"  My
> data
> > > > indicates that damage from this source was very unlikely.  However,
> there
> > > > are many other ways the boat might have been damaged.  If in doubt,
> before
> > > > spending the money, have the boat surveyed.
> > > >
> > > > Roger Pihlaja
> > > > S/V Dynamic Equilibrium
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Russell Miller" <re.miller at att.net>
> > > > To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2004 9:38 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] ROGER QUESTION?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Roger_
> > > > >
> > > > > First, are ytou sure, not that I doubt your hypothesis, but this is
> a
> > > > major
> > > > > defision, lots of $$$$$.  I told Wyls to consuklt you specifically
> since
> > > > you
> > > > > have thew techincal expertise to advise us on thew integrity of the
> boat
> > > > > given its problems??,  it was cleasred by the insurance
> > > company/litigation
> > > > > about july, 2003 and is still available
> > > > >
> > > > > Russ
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: "Roger Pihlaja" <cen09402 at centurytel.net>
> > > > > To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2004 9:15 PM
> > > > > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] ROGER QUESTION?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > Will,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hi, I just got back from campus.  I wasn't certain, so I looked up
> the
> > > > > > chemical service compatability of polyester & epoxy resins in
> aromatic
> > > > and
> > > > > > normal hydrocarbons at room temperature in my copy of Perry's
> Chemical
> > > > > > Engineer's Handbook.  Both types of resins are listed as being
> > > suitable
> > > > > for
> > > > > > long term service in these chemicals.  Therefore, I would expect
> that
> > > > the
> > > > > > exposure to the oil spill did not do any damage to the hull beyond
> a
> > > > > little
> > > > > > discoloration.  Hopefully, this sets your mind at ease.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Roger Pihlaja
> > > > > > S/V Dynamic Equilibrium
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > From: "William P. Barry, III" <wp.barry at att.net>
> > > > > > To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2004 3:55 PM
> > > > > > Subject: [Rhodes22-list] ROGER QUESTION?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Roger et all:
> > > > > > >     Thought maybe you might be able to answer this question with
> > > your
> > > > > > expertise better than anyone else we know... We currently have
> found a
> > > > New
> > > > > > 2002 32 foot boat. Just got out of lawsuits, and legal issues last
> > > > summer.
> > > > > > Commisioned in August 2003. The boat was the victim of an oil
> spill by
> > > > > > evergreen. Had a barrier coat, as well as bottom paint. The only
> > > > > noticeable
> > > > > > defects of the boat was minor discoloration on the bottom paint on
> > > the
> > > > > > starboard side. As of now the hull is fine. Are there any long
> term
> > > > > effects
> > > > > > that might become an issue, and how bad would they be? As of now
> the
> > > > > > pricetag on the boat could be a very good deal however, we do not
> know
> > > > the
> > > > > > effects of oil on fiberglass even with the protection, or how
> likely
> > > it
> > > > is
> > > > > > if any.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >     Thanks,
> > > > > > >         Will Barry/ Russ Miller
> > > > > > >
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