[Rhodes22-list] ROGER QUESTION?

[Michael Meltzer]

maybe I am old fashioned, but do you not visit a boat before bidding?????

MJM
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "William P. Barry, III" <wp.barry at att.net>
To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2004 12:11 AM
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] ROGER QUESTION?


> hasn't been one yet, have to find an agreement on price first. Won't know
> till Monday.
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Michael Meltzer" <mjm at michaelmeltzer.com>
> To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2004 9:12 PM
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] ROGER QUESTION?
> 
> 
> > use it in good health, so how did the inpection go?
> >
> > MJM
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "William P. Barry, III" <wp.barry at att.net>
> > To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2004 1:02 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] ROGER QUESTION?
> >
> >
> > > The 326 should still controllable under single captain. Big jump from
> the
> > > 22, but the biggest reason is cabin space. With 2 separate berths, A/C
> HEat,
> > > and all the other extras hopefully our sailing season will get a little
> > > longer, and we can add a lot more weekend sailing to our summer agenda.
> Even
> > > with rain now the weekend shouldn't be a total loss. Cabin fever won't
> set
> > > in as quickly. Especially when it comes to our former process of
> bringing
> > > all the canvas home to let dry out.
> > >
> > >     Will
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Michael Meltzer" <mjm at michaelmeltzer.com>
> > > To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > > Sent: Friday, February 13, 2004 2:06 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] ROGER QUESTION?
> > >
> > >
> > > > I put an other thought, make sure the surveyor, has No connection to
> the
> > > boat yard and/or the broker, The broker will never give you
> > > > someone that might kill a sale.
> > > >
> > > > Might be a great deal, OTOH something still is a little strange here,
> It
> > > would be interesting to read the paper work that went to
> > > > the insurance company and the lawsuit, keep in mind someone had to
> prove a
> > > case here and thier must be a papertrail, Like what they
> > > > really were sueing for, and what they were claiming for damages.
> Somehow I
> > > would bet that that you never get it.
> > > >
> > > > BTW are you real sure you are not buy to big of a boat here? It going
> to
> > > have to move on it's hull and simgel handing might be out?
> > > >
> > > > MJM
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Russell Miller" <re.miller at att.net>
> > > > To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > > > Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2004 7:28 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] ROGER QUESTION?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > We will have a survey if it gets the nod.  My understaning from the
> > > dealer
> > > > > is the it was exposed to a crude spill from upstream in the river.
> the
> > > > > exposure was external from the water line down to however thick the
> oil
> > > was.
> > > > >
> > > > > Russ
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: "Roger Pihlaja" <cen09402 at centurytel.net>
> > > > > To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > > > > Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2004 5:13 AM
> > > > > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] ROGER QUESTION?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > Russ &/or Will?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I tried to answer your question as I understood it, "Did exposure
> to
> > > an
> > > > > oil
> > > > > > spill damage the FRP composite hull or the epoxy barrier coat?"
> My
> > > data
> > > > > > indicates that damage from this source was very unlikely.
> However,
> > > there
> > > > > > are many other ways the boat might have been damaged.  If in
> doubt,
> > > before
> > > > > > spending the money, have the boat surveyed.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Roger Pihlaja
> > > > > > S/V Dynamic Equilibrium
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > From: "Russell Miller" <re.miller at att.net>
> > > > > > To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2004 9:38 PM
> > > > > > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] ROGER QUESTION?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Roger_
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > First, are ytou sure, not that I doubt your hypothesis, but this
> is
> > > a
> > > > > > major
> > > > > > > defision, lots of $$$$$.  I told Wyls to consuklt you
> specifically
> > > since
> > > > > > you
> > > > > > > have thew techincal expertise to advise us on thew integrity of
> the
> > > boat
> > > > > > > given its problems??,  it was cleasred by the insurance
> > > > > company/litigation
> > > > > > > about july, 2003 and is still available
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Russ
> > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > From: "Roger Pihlaja" <cen09402 at centurytel.net>
> > > > > > > To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2004 9:15 PM
> > > > > > > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] ROGER QUESTION?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Will,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Hi, I just got back from campus.  I wasn't certain, so I
> looked up
> > > the
> > > > > > > > chemical service compatability of polyester & epoxy resins in
> > > aromatic
> > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > normal hydrocarbons at room temperature in my copy of Perry's
> > > Chemical
> > > > > > > > Engineer's Handbook.  Both types of resins are listed as being
> > > > > suitable
> > > > > > > for
> > > > > > > > long term service in these chemicals.  Therefore, I would
> expect
> > > that
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > exposure to the oil spill did not do any damage to the hull
> beyond
> > > a
> > > > > > > little
> > > > > > > > discoloration.  Hopefully, this sets your mind at ease.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Roger Pihlaja
> > > > > > > > S/V Dynamic Equilibrium
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > > From: "William P. Barry, III" <wp.barry at att.net>
> > > > > > > > To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2004 3:55 PM
> > > > > > > > Subject: [Rhodes22-list] ROGER QUESTION?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Roger et all:
> > > > > > > > >     Thought maybe you might be able to answer this question
> with
> > > > > your
> > > > > > > > expertise better than anyone else we know... We currently have
> > > found a
> > > > > > New
> > > > > > > > 2002 32 foot boat. Just got out of lawsuits, and legal issues
> last
> > > > > > summer.
> > > > > > > > Commisioned in August 2003. The boat was the victim of an oil
> > > spill by
> > > > > > > > evergreen. Had a barrier coat, as well as bottom paint. The
> only
> > > > > > > noticeable
> > > > > > > > defects of the boat was minor discoloration on the bottom
> paint on
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > > starboard side. As of now the hull is fine. Are there any long
> > > term
> > > > > > > effects
> > > > > > > > that might become an issue, and how bad would they be? As of
> now
> > > the
> > > > > > > > pricetag on the boat could be a very good deal however, we do
> not
> > > know
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > effects of oil on fiberglass even with the protection, or how
> > > likely
> > > > > it
> > > > > > is
> > > > > > > > if any.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >     Thanks,
> > > > > > > > >         Will Barry/ Russ Miller
> > > > > > > > >
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