[Rhodes22-list] Will, inspection report?

[William P. Barry, III]

I ended up going Saturday, and it was a last minute change. Jay did not end
up going. Overall the boat is in ok condition. Small issues, vinyl stripe
down hull, bottom paint redone, small chip through bottom paint into gel
coat. Cabin messy owner left all his stuff there and apparently told the
broker he doesn't feel like taking it out yet, hull very dirty. Didn't have
fall cleaning. Bigger issues: fold down swim platform left major crack in
stern of boat. Was repaired, said it happened because without buoyancy in
the water the weight on land was too much. Makes me worry...will it happen
again? other issues, the cockpit floor apparently the owner dropped some
stuff and must have chipped the fiberglass...he got a little epoxy happy and
tried to do the repairs himself...looks as though he did it in the dark, and
where the there are the former groves on the floor is now solid epoxy. Looks
horrible. Again same thing on different areas in the cockpit just put the
epoxy on and left it. But back to the fold down swim platform issue...Should
the boat's hull be made strong enough so the hinges wouldn't cause damage
like that? i'm not sure that the damage was really caused outside of the
water, although the water should take away some of the weight, id be afraid
now that the damage was done once, is more vulnerable and could happen in
the water again. I'm not sure about this boat, Although i like the
Eagle...seems like its a lot of work to be done, and project boat isn't what
we were looking for.

    Will Barry


----- Original Message -----
From: "Kroposki" <kroposki at innova.net>
To: "'The Rhodes 22 mail list'" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2004 6:38 PM
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Will, inspection report?


>
> Will,
> Did I miss your inspection report or do I have to wait for Jay?
> Pictures?
>                           Ed K
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Michael Meltzer
> Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2004 9:12 PM
> To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] ROGER QUESTION?
>
> use it in good health, so how did the inpection go?
>
> MJM
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "William P. Barry, III" <wp.barry at att.net>
> To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2004 1:02 PM
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] ROGER QUESTION?
>
>
> > The 326 should still controllable under single captain. Big jump from
> the
> > 22, but the biggest reason is cabin space. With 2 separate berths, A/C
> HEat,
> > and all the other extras hopefully our sailing season will get a
> little
> > longer, and we can add a lot more weekend sailing to our summer
> agenda. Even
> > with rain now the weekend shouldn't be a total loss. Cabin fever won't
> set
> > in as quickly. Especially when it comes to our former process of
> bringing
> > all the canvas home to let dry out.
> >
> >     Will
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Michael Meltzer" <mjm at michaelmeltzer.com>
> > To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Sent: Friday, February 13, 2004 2:06 AM
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] ROGER QUESTION?
> >
> >
> > > I put an other thought, make sure the surveyor, has No connection to
> the
> > boat yard and/or the broker, The broker will never give you
> > > someone that might kill a sale.
> > >
> > > Might be a great deal, OTOH something still is a little strange
> here, It
> > would be interesting to read the paper work that went to
> > > the insurance company and the lawsuit, keep in mind someone had to
> prove a
> > case here and thier must be a papertrail, Like what they
> > > really were sueing for, and what they were claiming for damages.
> Somehow I
> > would bet that that you never get it.
> > >
> > > BTW are you real sure you are not buy to big of a boat here? It
> going to
> > have to move on it's hull and simgel handing might be out?
> > >
> > > MJM
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Russell Miller" <re.miller at att.net>
> > > To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > > Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2004 7:28 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] ROGER QUESTION?
> > >
> > >
> > > > We will have a survey if it gets the nod.  My understaning from
> the
> > dealer
> > > > is the it was exposed to a crude spill from upstream in the river.
> the
> > > > exposure was external from the water line down to however thick
> the oil
> > was.
> > > >
> > > > Russ
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Roger Pihlaja" <cen09402 at centurytel.net>
> > > > To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > > > Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2004 5:13 AM
> > > > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] ROGER QUESTION?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Russ &/or Will?
> > > > >
> > > > > I tried to answer your question as I understood it, "Did
> exposure to
> > an
> > > > oil
> > > > > spill damage the FRP composite hull or the epoxy barrier coat?"
> My
> > data
> > > > > indicates that damage from this source was very unlikely.
> However,
> > there
> > > > > are many other ways the boat might have been damaged.  If in
> doubt,
> > before
> > > > > spending the money, have the boat surveyed.
> > > > >
> > > > > Roger Pihlaja
> > > > > S/V Dynamic Equilibrium
> > > > >
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: "Russell Miller" <re.miller at att.net>
> > > > > To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2004 9:38 PM
> > > > > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] ROGER QUESTION?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > Roger_
> > > > > >
> > > > > > First, are ytou sure, not that I doubt your hypothesis, but
> this is
> > a
> > > > > major
> > > > > > defision, lots of $$$$$.  I told Wyls to consuklt you
> specifically
> > since
> > > > > you
> > > > > > have thew techincal expertise to advise us on thew integrity
> of the
> > boat
> > > > > > given its problems??,  it was cleasred by the insurance
> > > > company/litigation
> > > > > > about july, 2003 and is still available
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Russ
> > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > From: "Roger Pihlaja" <cen09402 at centurytel.net>
> > > > > > To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2004 9:15 PM
> > > > > > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] ROGER QUESTION?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Will,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hi, I just got back from campus.  I wasn't certain, so I
> looked up
> > the
> > > > > > > chemical service compatability of polyester & epoxy resins
> in
> > aromatic
> > > > > and
> > > > > > > normal hydrocarbons at room temperature in my copy of
> Perry's
> > Chemical
> > > > > > > Engineer's Handbook.  Both types of resins are listed as
> being
> > > > suitable
> > > > > > for
> > > > > > > long term service in these chemicals.  Therefore, I would
> expect
> > that
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > exposure to the oil spill did not do any damage to the hull
> beyond
> > a
> > > > > > little
> > > > > > > discoloration.  Hopefully, this sets your mind at ease.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Roger Pihlaja
> > > > > > > S/V Dynamic Equilibrium
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > From: "William P. Barry, III" <wp.barry at att.net>
> > > > > > > To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2004 3:55 PM
> > > > > > > Subject: [Rhodes22-list] ROGER QUESTION?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Roger et all:
> > > > > > > >     Thought maybe you might be able to answer this
> question with
> > > > your
> > > > > > > expertise better than anyone else we know... We currently
> have
> > found a
> > > > > New
> > > > > > > 2002 32 foot boat. Just got out of lawsuits, and legal
> issues last
> > > > > summer.
> > > > > > > Commisioned in August 2003. The boat was the victim of an
> oil
> > spill by
> > > > > > > evergreen. Had a barrier coat, as well as bottom paint. The
> only
> > > > > > noticeable
> > > > > > > defects of the boat was minor discoloration on the bottom
> paint on
> > > > the
> > > > > > > starboard side. As of now the hull is fine. Are there any
> long
> > term
> > > > > > effects
> > > > > > > that might become an issue, and how bad would they be? As of
> now
> > the
> > > > > > > pricetag on the boat could be a very good deal however, we
> do not
> > know
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > effects of oil on fiberglass even with the protection, or
> how
> > likely
> > > > it
> > > > > is
> > > > > > > if any.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >     Thanks,
> > > > > > > >         Will Barry/ Russ Miller
> > > > > > > >
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