[Rhodes22-list] Auto Helm

[bchilds1]

Roger,

Thanks.  I have reviewed the owners manual and it has all the sketches to
explain the correct installation.  Now I understand your instructions.

Just shoveled 11 inch of snow in the driveway and I am out of breath.
Fortunately it was the powder kind.

Thanks again.

----- Original Message -----
From: Roger Pihlaja <cen09402 at centurytel.net>
To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2004 3:33 AM
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Auto Helm


> Hi Byran,
>
> In the FAQ re my installation of the Autohelm ST1000+ Tillerpilot on
Dynamic
> Equilibrium, it was assumed that the reader would already have the
Autohelm
> installation instruction manual.  This installation manual is pretty well
> written & there are plenty of explanations, photos, & diagrams explaining
> the various installation options, including the type of installation
> required for a Rhodes 22.  Without the ST1000+ installation manual, you
are
> going to be lost trying to figure out the installation.  The parts list in
> the FAQ gives the Autohelm P/N's and quantities required to complete the
> installation.  These pieces/parts are listed separately because they are
NOT
> included in the standard ST1000+ package.
>
> The reason for the pedestal mount is because the port & starboard side
> gunnels are not at the same vertical height as the tiller.  In order for
the
> Tillerpilot to work properly, when the rudder is pointed amidships, the
> Tillerpilot servo must be mounted perpendicular to the tiller in both the
> horizontal and vertical planes.  The pedestal mount raises up the bottom
of
> the Tillerpilot's servo push/pull rod to just above the top of the tiller
so
> that the two pieces can be joined with a quick-disconnect pin.  If this
> proper geometric relationship is not established during the installation;
> then, the rudder movement vs. servo movement relationship will not be as
the
> Tillerpilot's controller is programmed to expect.  The effect upon the
> Tillerpilot's ability to steer the boat will be unpredictable.
>
> I now have several seasons of use on my ST1000+ Tillerpilot on Dynamic
> Equilibrium.  The system has been bulletproof.  It has plenty of power &
is
> sufficiently quick responding to hold a set course at least as well as a
> human helmsman.  Like any autopilot, it has the most trouble holding the
set
> course on a run or a broad reach in a following sea.  However, such
> conditions are challenging for a human helmsman as well.  Also, the
> autopilot does not have any way of assessing wind shifts or wave patterns.
> In my experience, a sharp crew, actively sailing the boat, will average
15 -
> 25% greater speed over the autopilot by taking advantage of headers and
> lifts and wave opportunities for surfing.  But, for getting from point A
to
> point B with a minimum of attention, the ST1000+ Tillerpilot on a Rhodes
22
> works great!  If you specified a bigger autopilot, all you would do is add
> weight, cost, and power consumption to your installation without any
> significant benefits in terms of reliablity or performance.
>
> Unfortunately, Dynamic Equilibrium is stored away for the winter in a
place
> where I cannot easily take photos of the autopilot installation.  If,
after
> reading the Autohelm manual, you still have specific questions; then,
> contact me & I will try to help you.
>
> Roger Pihlaja
> S/V Dynamic Equilibrium
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "bchilds1" <bchilds1 at peoplepc.com>
> To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2004 9:05 PM
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Auto Helm
>
>
> > I would love to see the picture because I am having difficulty figuring
> out
> > the installation from Roger's instructions.
> > Is it a digital picture you can send?
> >
> > I want to be ready to make this installation because I am thinking of
> > trailering down to the Keys and celebrating my retirement in the warm
> > climate.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Eaton, Gil <GEaton at IKON.com>
> > To: 'The Rhodes 22 mail list' <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2004 5:23 AM
> > Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Auto Helm
> >
> >
> > > Hi Bryan,
> > > I have a picture of the Raymarine TP1000+ mounted on Closing Time.
> > > I used Roger's instructions, shaded the installation a bit to clear
the
> > > captain's chair and the hiking stick retainer, so it's somewhat less
> than
> > > the recommended 18 inches (as I remember).  I think Sailnet had a good
> > deal
> > > on it, included the remote for less than 400 bucks.  The parts came
from
> > > Defender (I think), installed it over a year ago.
> > > Good Luck,
> > > gil
> > >
> > > Gil Eaton
> > > S/V Closing Time
> > > Spring Cove Marina
> > > Rock Hall, MD
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> > > [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org]On Behalf Of bchilds1
> > > Sent: Monday, January 12, 2004 11:44 PM
> > > To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> > > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Auto Helm
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks. I did not acquire that information from looking at the on line
> > > catalog from sailnet.  I thought that they all had a digital readout.
> My
> > > boat is all shrink rapped sitting in the harbor parking lot here is
> > > Michigan.  I don't want to disturbed the nice cover but I am trying to
> > plan
> > > for a quick installation of an autohelm.  One end would I need to be
> > secured
> > > to the tiller and the other on the deck.  In the information published
> by
> > > Roger Pihlaja, he indicates a 3 inch pedestal mount (I am assuming
that
> > this
> > > is for the deck, but why would it need to come up 3 inches off the
deck)
> > and
> > > 2  five inch pushrod extensions (I am assuming that this is adding
> length
> > to
> > > the unit so that it can attach to the tiller.  Some guidance  in your
> > > installation would be appreciated.
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: Michael Meltzer <mjm at michaelmeltzer.com>
> > > To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > > Sent: Monday, January 12, 2004 5:10 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Auto Helm
> > >
> > >
> > > > yes have both, the problem with the tp20 is that it does not have a
> > > digital readout, kinds of point the boat than lock it in.. I
> > > > almost had my head handed to me coming in short handed at night,
> > running
> > > a bouty line, it was taking to long with the tp20 to set
> > > > up the next leg and I was never sure what cource was set. get the
> > > Autoheml.
> > > >
> > > > MJM
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "bchilds1" <bchilds1 at peoplepc.com>
> > > > To: <Rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > > > Sent: Monday, January 12, 2004 10:31 PM
> > > > Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Auto Helm
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Since I am about to retire I have spent some time studying up on the
> > > addition of an auto helm. I plan to do more single handed
> > > > cruising.  I have reviewed the information collected on the Rhodes22
> FAQ
> > > page but have some additional questions for the experts out
> > > > there. I see that many have used the Raymarine or Raytheon auto
helm.
> > Does
> > > anyone have experience with the Simrad TP20 auto helm?
> > > > For about the same money as the ST1000 it has a little more thrust
> (154#
> > > vs 125#)
> > > >
> > > > Also, does anyone have some pictures of the installation, mainly at
> the
> > > deck attachment.  I plan to install it myself since I have
> > > > experience with fiberglass, etc and feel comfortable with the
> > > installation.
> > > >
> > > >  Bryan
> > > > "Escape"
> > > >  Rhodes 22
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