[Rhodes22-list] inside sheeting

Tue Jan 20 12:28:29 EST 2004

Mary Lou,

I never lower the boom.  I am more concerned about getting knocked overboard than balancing the boat.  With 2 infinitely adjustable sails, I find I can keep the boat upright and sailing well no matter how hard the wind blows.  Above 30 mph the freeboard becomes more of a factor than anything else, and I either heave to or motor home.  I drop the pop-top to keep water out.

I reroute the sheets whenever I am serious about pointing higher.

My wife can't comfortably reroute the sheets from inside the cabin, either.  Bruce's arms are longer than mine--he would have no trouble.

Bill

----- Original Message ----- 
From: mltroy 
To: The Rhodes 22 mail list 
Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2004 11:18 AM
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] inside sheeting

Hmm, just about the only time we bother rerouting the sheets
is when the wind is kicking up and we've already put in "the
first reef" (i.e. lowered the boom - poptop down.) At that
point, we've partially furled the genny and still want to
point higher, time to reroute the sheets, get out the
boathook - of course, I'm so short that if I stand on the
cabin step I can't reach very far forward anyway. Thank
goodness for the arm extender <grin>.

Mary Lou

>
> Bruce,
>
> Like Wally, I reroute the lazy sheet.  Like Slim, my
> sheets are long enough that I can leave them cleated while
> I set up the changed configuration.
>
> I do all the work from inside the cabin, with the Pop-Top
> up.  I normally sail with the Pop-Top up.  If I can't sail
> with the Pop Top up I won't be rerouting lines.  There is
> no danger factor,  I can see where I'm going the whole
> time, I'm not working with tension on any line, and I can
> always drop what I'm doing and move a few feet back to the
> tiller without fear of falling overboard.
>
> Stan moved the cleats for inside cleating all over, so
> some people's experiences are not valid for your boat.  On
> my boat, inside cleating has been simplified, so it is
> easy to set up, but does not have as much adjustment as on
> some other R-22s I have seen.
>
> Bill Effros
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Steve Alm
> To: Rhodes
> Sent: Monday, January 19, 2004 6:02 PM
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] inside sheeting
>
>
> Bruce,
>
> Wally's method works but like he said, there's the danger
> of falling in with the boat still sailing.  Here's another
> way if you're not racing and not in a hurry.  When I
> single hand and want to make any changes, I just heave to.
> To do this, just tack through the wind like normal but
> then don't release the now windward sheet--thus
> backwinding the main.  Ease out the main sheet and take
> the tiller to the lee and lock it down.  The boat will
> come to a stop without all the chaos of luffing sails.
> Now you can safely go forward to reroute the lazy sheet.
> As for the windward sheet, mine is long enough so I can
> leave it cleated and still have enough to bring the tail
> back through the inboard fairlead and around the outside
> of the shroud.  When you're ready to go, just release the
> windward sheet and take the leeward sheet, bring in the
> main and you're off.  The whole process only takes a
> couple minutes.
>
> Slim
>
> On 1/19/04 2:30 PM, "Wally Buck" <tnrhodey at hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Bruce,
> >
> > It is a bit of a pain but as you discovered you can
> > point so much better. I try to think one tack ahead so I
> > can reroute lazy sheet. If are pointing and need to fall
> off you can luff up and reroute sheets but I find it
> > easier to tack first. You can reroute sheet then tack
> > back. I do this when I race solo and it only takes a
> > couple of seconds. First undo figure eight knot on lazy
> sheet, secure tiller. quickly move forward, reroute sheet,
> > then feed back through block.
> >
> > Be careful you don't fall in when moving forward, with
> > the tiller tied off the boat may just sail away .....
> >
> > Wally
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >> From: bgreenwald at optonline.net
> >> Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> >> To: The Rhodes 22 mail
> list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> >> Subject:
> [Rhodes22-list] inside sheeting >> Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004
> 14:45:45 -0500 >>
> >> Hi all,
> >>
> >> As i look out on the freshly fallen white gift from
> heaven, my mind has >> been turnng to last season's
> adventures and mishaps.  I thought that as i >> was able
> to recall the various questions I had set aside for later
> >> contemplation i would post them.  One problem/question
> i continue to ponder >> relates to how to deal with
> changing points of sail when single-handling. >> After 2
> seasons I finally had an opportunity to raise my 110 jib
> during the >> fall season. (I had removed my 175 as a pre
> hurricane preparation and since >> i had had trouble the
> prior season pointing in the gusty fall conditions on >>
> LIS with my 175 furled, and had to put up a sail anyway, i
> decided to >> breakout my 110).  To a relatively
> inexperienced sailor it appeared to work >> well, provding
> better pointing ability when sheeted inside the upper
> shroud >> and providing a pretty comfortable and
> controlled ride.  However, when >> changing to a beam or
> broad reach, it seemed necessary to move the sheet >> back
> outside  to avoid s >> evere chafing of the sheet against
> the shroud.  When single-handling in >> particular,  I
> found that  moving the sheets inside/outside not very easy
> >> to do in windy conditions.  I am curious if there is
> some technique or >> rigging that makes this more
> convenient. >>  I suppose I could head up into the wind
> and essentially come to a stop >> each time I needed to
> make the adjustments but  I suspect there may be a >>
> better way.  It also occurred to me that perhaps one could
> add a second set >> of sheets, so that one set would
> always be inside and one outside so that >> at any point
> there would be 3 lazy sheets but that doesn't sound very
> >> seamanlike and it seems there woud be an awful lot of
> line lying around to >> deal with.
> >> Other than avoiding changes in point of sale, does
> anyone have any thoughts >> about this?
> >>
> >> Bruce Greenwald
> >> S/V Ruach II
> >>
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