[Rhodes22-list] Boat for sale

[Michael Meltzer]

Thanks.

MJM

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mary Lou Troy" <mltroy at netreach.net>
To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2004 8:49 AM
Subject: Re: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Boat for sale


> Michael
> You should look at the IPs. Not sure about the length overall. A quick look
> at yachtworld seems to indicate that the IP26 had a LOA of 26"2" but that
> the IP 26 Mark II had an LOA of 30'. The earlier ones are more affordable
> anyway. There are two on yachtworld. One says the LOA is 30' for an 1982 so
> you probably need to get out your tape measure.
>
> http://www.yachtworld.com/core/listing/pl_boat_detail.jsp?currency=USD&units=Feet&checked_boats=1019735&slim=quick&
>
>
http://www.yachtworld.com/core/listing/pl_boat_full_detail.jsp?slim=quick&boat_id=914598&units=Feet&currency=USD&access=Public&listing_id=24744&url=
>
> I think what I hear you saying is that for right now interior counts. IPs
> are noted for that. I don't like the larger ones but there's a guy in our
> marina with a 27 that is a wonderful looking boat and he singlehands it all
> over the place.
>
> BTW, I wasn't dissing the Seaward so much as encouraging you to look
> around. Good luck, whatever you decide. If I think of any other
> possibilities I'll let you know.
>
>
> Mary Lou
>
>
> At 12:06 AM 1/21/2004 -0500, you wrote:
> >everyone thanks for the ideas, I am listening, but still working and lack
> >of sleep are leaving little time for email tonight.. think
> >of this as group therapy :-)
> >
> >1) I live in the NY area, dock rate are 120$ per foot and 28$ for winter
> >storage, now that 35 footer with the 3 foot bow and 1 foot
> >rudder is around 5722 a year, ouch.
> >2)I know the games to store the boat cheaper, CT has laws going back to
> >the 1700's about public harbor use, been thier done that,
> >but 3 kids on a tender is a pain in the ass.
> >3)my town has put serval million into the docks,  best docks I every been
> >on, they did not spare a penny, wind/wake/wave protected,
> >has services, overnight guards and armed cop durring the day(3 police
> >boats, comand shack and they realy want the duity), 1000$ from
> >april 1 to nov31, two months longer than the rest of the dock, now the
> >problem, 20 year waiting list for 28-34 foot space(the last
> >space give out was signed up for in 1996, I have a way to go), the best I
> >can my hands on it 27'5' righ now.
> >4)Would I like to built my 39 bruce roberts, or a 37 foot nuaicat, make be
> >PS 32 house, sure, but those are 200-350 new and even 20
> >years old still 120+, even then thier going to be 40$ plus in overhual.
> >5)CD can not point with the full keel and have to much wood :-)
> >6)IRC racing rules boats, I do not want to live on my side.
> >7)surpriced no one mentioned the IP 26 with centerboad
> >8)I have to check the others, but time is a factor, I could build or fix
> >anything on a boat, the problem is I do not do it daily and
> >am slow. I like sailing, getting larger mean a older boat and more of my
> >time fixing. the problem go up by the 3.5 power with
> >size(and the price too :-)
> >9)like to be able to store the boat my self, like to be able to walk into
> >the beach, need sleeping for 5 and that 27.5 number again,
> >open to ideas and am listening, like to keep sail size down and boat
> >"mass" so I can still single hand, I sail the sound, 3 day
> >weekend and block island and such.
> >
> >Sleep time,  I check in tomarrow.
> >
> >Here is the issues I am facing
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: <rjquinn at bellsouth.net>
> >To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> >Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2004 5:04 PM
> >Subject: Re: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Boat for sale
> >
> >
> > > Michael:  Kathy and I went through the Seaward 26RK with Stan and
> > Elton.  Nice.   Sailed on a tiller model with an outboard.
> >Nice!  It would be a difficult choice to give up an R22 for a Seaward 26RK
> >but there is definitely a market for folks like you who
> >need something just a bit bigger.
> > >
> > > Lots of neat features can be built into both boats to make them just
> > what you want.
> > >
> > > Bob and Kathy on the "NoKaOi"
> > > >
> > > > From: Michael Meltzer <mjm at michaelmeltzer.com>
> > > > Date: 2004/01/19 Mon PM 08:19:49 EST
> > > > To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > > > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Boat for sale
> > > >
> > > > yep, it looks like the seaward will work for us, the cockpit is big
> > enough to get the family on the water and the cabin can
> >sleep
> > > > all 5. frankly I would like to get something bigger, like a nuaticat
> > 37. but the bottom line is I do not have the time to use a
> >boat
> > > > like that, it is a shame. I was looking at a few others but eight
> > they where overpriced or cheaply built, besides I like the
> >fact
> > > > that this is still trailable(good thing I got the excursion :-),
> > shallow enough to walk in and has a 18 hp diesel(and hot water
> >too
> > > > :-), BTW thankyou, I did manage to get the truck started in -5. I am
> > surprized no one made a offer yet :-)
> > > >
> > > > MJM
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Rik Sandberg" <sanderico at earthlink.net>
> > > > To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > > > Sent: Monday, January 19, 2004 7:12 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Boat for sale
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Michael,
> > > > >
> > > > > So.....what now.........a new seaward 26???? :-) :-)
> > > > >
> > > > > Your R 22 is a great boat, wish I was in the market. :-)
> > > > >
> > > > > Rik
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > At 05:15 PM 1/19/2004, you wrote:
> > > > > >Boat Show Package #2
> > > > > >
> > > > > >IMF Innermast Furling Main.
> > > > > >Special CDI Furling System With A 175% Reefing Genoa Sail: Storm,
> > Working
> > > > > >Jib Or Deck Sweeping Genoa, Window, Self Cover, Adjustment
> > > > > >Lines, Wind Tell-Tales.
> > > > > >Genoa Hardware System:
> > > > > >2 Genoa Tracks And Cars.
> > > > > >2 Lewmar Winches And Winch Handle .
> > > > > >Stainless Steel Bow Pulpit, Navigation Lights.
> > > > > >Stainless Steel Stern Rail With Stern Light.
> > > > > >Stainless Steel Or Teak, Cabin Top Rails.
> > > > > >Stainless Steel Or Teak, Aft Cabin Grab Rails.
> > > > > >Stainless Steel 8" Cast 4 Bolt Docking Cleats.
> > > > > >Stainless Steel 10" Cast Rafting Bow Cleat.
> > > > > >Stainless Steel 1/2" Bow & Stern Eyes.
> > > > > >Enclosed Marine Head, Holding Tank, Deck Pump-Out.
> > > > > >6'4" Adjustable Height Pop-Top.
> > > > > >Galley: 15 Gallon Water On Demand System, Deck Fill, Vertical Door Ice
> > > > > >Chest, Deep Sink, 4.5' Counter, Upper And Lower Cabinets,
> > > > > >Stove And Cutting Board.
> > > > > >Electrical System: 110v S/P With 3 110v Cabin Outlets. 12v Electric
> > > > > >System, 6 Circuit, AC-DC Circuit Breaker, Two 12v Accessory
> > > > > >Outlets, 6 Interior Lamps and Two #27 Batteries.
> > > > > >Exclusive R-22 7:1 Outboard Motor Lift.
> > > > > >Interior Cushions: 6 Piece Fabric Set.
> > > > > >Two Taylor Cabin Top Hatches.
> > > > > >Two Solar Panels.
> > > > > >Stern Ladder With With Flat Steps.
> > > > > >Hiking Stick With Hands-Off Tiller Locks.
> > > > > >Molded Foam Flotation.
> > > > > >Two Captain Swivel Seats.
> > > > > >Three Piece Set Of Cockpit Cushions.
> > > > > >And All The Other Rhodes Exclusive Features.
> > > > > >Anchor Package: Colored Anchor, Pulpit Hangers, Deck Vent And
> > > > > >Under-the-Deck Rope Locker.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >$35, 995 base boat show package. Plus: from gb options page
> > > > > >$695 On Board Mast Hoist System
> > > > > >$995    Pop Top Enclosure
> > > > > >$200    with Installation
> > > > > >$700+300+100 Life Rails/ Cockpit Life Lines/ double set.
> > > > > >$495 4 Piece Cockpit Filler Cushions + Support Panels
> > > > > >$395 Macerator Discharge / Discharge system .....Plus
> > > > > >$95 with install
> > > > > >$295 Second  Battery with Installation
> > > > > >$495 Bimini, Dual Positioning
> > > > > >$2995 Unimatic Trailer, galinaivied
> > > > > >$595 Anti-Fouling Paint, double coat
> > > > > >$325 Mast Antenna, Co-Ax Cable, Disconnect Fittings
> > > > > >$85 Installation of Radio, supplied by owner
> > > > > >$175 Installation of Depth Finder, supplied by owner
> > > > > >$150 Installation of Wall Mounted Compass, supplied by owner
> > > > > >$495 4 Piece Cockpit Filler Cushions + Support Panels
> > > > > >
> > > > > >45580 total so far :-)
> > > > > >
> > > > > >now for some off the list options.
> > > > > >$4000 Yamaha 9.9 High thrust extra long shaft, remote tiller controls,
> > > > > >eclectic motor life, slave motor controls
> > > > > >$800 Andersen st12 self tailing winches, pair
> > > > > >$1000 Harken fueling
> > > > > >$600 110% jib, with cover, upgraded low stretch, long life fabric
> > > > > >$700 135% jib with cover, upgraded low stretch, long life fabric
> > > > > >$1100 hood spinnaker(never used), hardware and pole
> > > > > >$200 Main sail IMF also has the upgrade  low stretch, long life fabric
> > > > > >$600 Raytheon st60 tridata
> > > > > >$400 Raytheon st60 multi
> > > > > >$600 st1000 tiller pilot, with all install parts
> > > > > >$115 nicro low profile vent
> > > > > >$256 nicro powervent, with 4 inch thru deck vent
> > > > > >$120 aqua signal tri tricolor and anchor light
> > > > > >$170 contest 130 bulkhead compass
> > > > > >$350 Bose speaker, cockpit mount
> > > > > >$200 jvc marine am/fm/cd
> > > > > >$200 icom vhf
> > > > > >$400 3 sets of white/red combo LED lighting low power draw
> > > > > >$200 link 10 power meter
> > > > > >$200 bilge pumps(s), switch, counter
> > > > > >$100 10 amp 3 stage charging., 110 volt charging
> > > > > >$100 steaming/decklight
> > > > > >$100 second breaker panel
> > > > > >$1200 sealand vacuum head, custom fresh water tank, pursuer water
> > > > > >$200 extra set cockpit drains
> > > > > >$350 30 watt solar panel with 3 stage charging
> > > > > >$300 AGM type 31 batties vs the standard #27
> > > > > >$1400 misc, Stainless disc breaks, spare tire with mount, led trail
> > > > > >lights, chokes, ball fender with cover, PVC pipe to lasseret,
> > > > > >upgraded tinned wire thought-out, compass protected wire by it,
> > bus bars,
> > > > > >main breaker system, #2 wire motor start system, padeyes,
> > > > > >cutter rig sail on cdi filler, etc.....
> > > > > >
> > > > > >15,961, oboy
> > > > > >
> > > > > >$61,541 total, one should never add up what they paid for a boat :-)
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Now for some "intangibles", the boat has had all it's work done at the
> > > > > >factory, the boats spent every winter down south at the
> > > > > >factory and has never gone thought a deep freeze, all actions on
> > the boat
> > > > > >have been carefully watched over while their. The bare
> > > > > >hull/deck was personal inspected by me in the driveway before any
> > work was
> > > > > >done, After 3 years all build "issues" have been
> > > > > >corrected and tested in high wind conditions.  The boat is in
> > great shape
> > > > > >and ready to sail NOW. The boat has been upgraded to the
> > > > > >latest 2003 standards.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Now it is time for the Commercial :-)
> > > > > >1)I have a 2 year old, that is child number 3.
> > > > > >2)I just got back from the AC boat show and my wife "subjected" I
> > get a
> > > > > >bigger boat.
> > > > > >3)I need to "strike while the iron is hot", plus I want to make
> > deal with
> > > > > >for the new boat for the spring
> > > > > >4)I know this boat is not for everyone, it is loaded and then some.
> > > > > >5)the prices are for everything "New", what it would cost today,
> > now the
> > > > > >boat is 3 years old(and in some ways better than a new
> > > > > >boat, no "surprises" :-) and I want to make a quick deal. Someone
> > could
> > > > > >walk a way with a very good deal and a very fair price. I
> > > > > >need to know what the boat is worth to you. (people spare me the
> > stupid
> > > > > >answers please)
> > > > > >6)I do not want Stan hurt here, i.e. he loose a sale, if you are
> > working
> > > > > >with him now we will do the deal thought Stan(and price
> > > > > >will be adjusted). If you are not working with GB so much the better.
> > > > > >Depending on the buyers presences, General boats can prep the
> > > > > >boats, arrange for delivery, take the new owner for a shake down
> > cruse,
> > > > > >make any modification or add options to the boat and can
> > > > > >issue a 2 years new boat warrenty. Now I will have to compensate
> > GB for
> > > > > >this so "prices will be adjusted :-)"
> > > > > >7)I think Stan might have a buyer already, But I hate using one of his
> > > > > >buyers when he doing me a favor, be quick, time count here
> > > > > >8)do not ask me what I am asking, A boat is only wroth what some
> > is will
> > > > > >to pay, I suspect their are few that are willing to pay as
> > > > > >dearly as I did :-)
> > > > > >
> > > > > >MJM
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
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