[Rhodes22-list] Boat for sale

[Michael Meltzer]

I thought about that and still thinking about that.

MJM

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Paul Grandholm" <paul at grandpower.com>
To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2004 8:02 AM
Subject: Re: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Boat for sale


Gee, Michael.  The more I read, the more I'm thinking keep what you've
got and get the boom room attachment.

Paul
>
>everyone thanks for the ideas, I am listening, but still working and lack of sleep are leaving little time for email tonight..
think
>of this as group therapy :-)
>
>1) I live in the NY area, dock rate are 120$ per foot and 28$ for winter storage, now that 35 footer with the 3 foot bow and 1 foot
>rudder is around 5722 a year, ouch.
>2)I know the games to store the boat cheaper, CT has laws going back to the 1700's about public harbor use, been thier done that,
>but 3 kids on a tender is a pain in the ass.
>3)my town has put serval million into the docks,  best docks I every been on, they did not spare a penny, wind/wake/wave protected,
>has services, overnight guards and armed cop durring the day(3 police boats, comand shack and they realy want the duity), 1000$
from
>april 1 to nov31, two months longer than the rest of the dock, now the problem, 20 year waiting list for 28-34 foot space(the last
>space give out was signed up for in 1996, I have a way to go), the best I can my hands on it 27'5' righ now.
>4)Would I like to built my 39 bruce roberts, or a 37 foot nuaicat, make be PS 32 house, sure, but those are 200-350 new and even 20
>years old still 120+, even then thier going to be 40$ plus in overhual.
>5)CD can not point with the full keel and have to much wood :-)
>6)IRC racing rules boats, I do not want to live on my side.
>7)surpriced no one mentioned the IP 26 with centerboad
>8)I have to check the others, but time is a factor, I could build or fix anything on a boat, the problem is I do not do it daily
and
>am slow. I like sailing, getting larger mean a older boat and more of my time fixing. the problem go up by the 3.5 power with
>size(and the price too :-)
>9)like to be able to store the boat my self, like to be able to walk into the beach, need sleeping for 5 and that 27.5 number
again,
>open to ideas and am listening, like to keep sail size down and boat "mass" so I can still single hand, I sail the sound, 3 day
>weekend and block island and such.
>
>Sleep time,  I check in tomarrow.
>
>Here is the issues I am facing
>----- Original Message -----
>From: <rjquinn at bellsouth.net>
>To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2004 5:04 PM
>Subject: Re: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Boat for sale
>
>
>> Michael:  Kathy and I went through the Seaward 26RK with Stan and Elton.  Nice.   Sailed on a tiller model with an outboard.
>Nice!  It would be a difficult choice to give up an R22 for a Seaward 26RK but there is definitely a market for folks like you who
>need something just a bit bigger.
>>
>> Lots of neat features can be built into both boats to make them just what you want.
>>
>> Bob and Kathy on the "NoKaOi"
>> >
>> > From: Michael Meltzer <mjm at michaelmeltzer.com>
>> > Date: 2004/01/19 Mon PM 08:19:49 EST
>> > To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Boat for sale
>> >
>> > yep, it looks like the seaward will work for us, the cockpit is big enough to get the family on the water and the cabin can
>sleep
>> > all 5. frankly I would like to get something bigger, like a nuaticat 37. but the bottom line is I do not have the time to use a
>boat
>> > like that, it is a shame. I was looking at a few others but eight they where overpriced or cheaply built, besides I like the
>fact
>> > that this is still trailable(good thing I got the excursion :-), shallow enough to walk in and has a 18 hp diesel(and hot water
>too
>> > :-), BTW thankyou, I did manage to get the truck started in -5. I am surprized no one made a offer yet :-)
>> >
>> > MJM
>> >
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: "Rik Sandberg" <sanderico at earthlink.net>
>> > To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>> > Sent: Monday, January 19, 2004 7:12 PM
>> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Boat for sale
>> >
>> >
>> > > Michael,
>> > >
>> > > So.....what now.........a new seaward 26???? :-) :-)
>> > >
>> > > Your R 22 is a great boat, wish I was in the market. :-)
>> > >
>> > > Rik
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > At 05:15 PM 1/19/2004, you wrote:
>> > > >Boat Show Package #2
>> > > >
>> > > >IMF Innermast Furling Main.
>> > > >Special CDI Furling System With A 175% Reefing Genoa Sail: Storm, Working
>> > > >Jib Or Deck Sweeping Genoa, Window, Self Cover, Adjustment
>> > > >Lines, Wind Tell-Tales.
>> > > >Genoa Hardware System:
>> > > >2 Genoa Tracks And Cars.
>> > > >2 Lewmar Winches And Winch Handle .
>> > > >Stainless Steel Bow Pulpit, Navigation Lights.
>> > > >Stainless Steel Stern Rail With Stern Light.
>> > > >Stainless Steel Or Teak, Cabin Top Rails.
>> > > >Stainless Steel Or Teak, Aft Cabin Grab Rails.
>> > > >Stainless Steel 8" Cast 4 Bolt Docking Cleats.
>> > > >Stainless Steel 10" Cast Rafting Bow Cleat.
>> > > >Stainless Steel 1/2" Bow & Stern Eyes.
>> > > >Enclosed Marine Head, Holding Tank, Deck Pump-Out.
>> > > >6'4" Adjustable Height Pop-Top.
>> > > >Galley: 15 Gallon Water On Demand System, Deck Fill, Vertical Door Ice
>> > > >Chest, Deep Sink, 4.5' Counter, Upper And Lower Cabinets,
>> > > >Stove And Cutting Board.
>> > > >Electrical System: 110v S/P With 3 110v Cabin Outlets. 12v Electric
>> > > >System, 6 Circuit, AC-DC Circuit Breaker, Two 12v Accessory
>> > > >Outlets, 6 Interior Lamps and Two #27 Batteries.
>> > > >Exclusive R-22 7:1 Outboard Motor Lift.
>> > > >Interior Cushions: 6 Piece Fabric Set.
>> > > >Two Taylor Cabin Top Hatches.
>> > > >Two Solar Panels.
>> > > >Stern Ladder With With Flat Steps.
>> > > >Hiking Stick With Hands-Off Tiller Locks.
>> > > >Molded Foam Flotation.
>> > > >Two Captain Swivel Seats.
>> > > >Three Piece Set Of Cockpit Cushions.
>> > > >And All The Other Rhodes Exclusive Features.
>> > > >Anchor Package: Colored Anchor, Pulpit Hangers, Deck Vent And
>> > > >Under-the-Deck Rope Locker.
>> > > >
>> > > >$35, 995 base boat show package. Plus: from gb options page
>> > > >$695 On Board Mast Hoist System
>> > > >$995    Pop Top Enclosure
>> > > >$200    with Installation
>> > > >$700+300+100 Life Rails/ Cockpit Life Lines/ double set.
>> > > >$495 4 Piece Cockpit Filler Cushions + Support Panels
>> > > >$395 Macerator Discharge / Discharge system .....Plus
>> > > >$95 with install
>> > > >$295 Second  Battery with Installation
>> > > >$495 Bimini, Dual Positioning
>> > > >$2995 Unimatic Trailer, galinaivied
>> > > >$595 Anti-Fouling Paint, double coat
>> > > >$325 Mast Antenna, Co-Ax Cable, Disconnect Fittings
>> > > >$85 Installation of Radio, supplied by owner
>> > > >$175 Installation of Depth Finder, supplied by owner
>> > > >$150 Installation of Wall Mounted Compass, supplied by owner
>> > > >$495 4 Piece Cockpit Filler Cushions + Support Panels
>> > > >
>> > > >45580 total so far :-)
>> > > >
>> > > >now for some off the list options.
>> > > >$4000 Yamaha 9.9 High thrust extra long shaft, remote tiller controls,
>> > > >eclectic motor life, slave motor controls
>> > > >$800 Andersen st12 self tailing winches, pair
>> > > >$1000 Harken fueling
>> > > >$600 110% jib, with cover, upgraded low stretch, long life fabric
>> > > >$700 135% jib with cover, upgraded low stretch, long life fabric
>> > > >$1100 hood spinnaker(never used), hardware and pole
>> > > >$200 Main sail IMF also has the upgrade  low stretch, long life fabric
>> > > >$600 Raytheon st60 tridata
>> > > >$400 Raytheon st60 multi
>> > > >$600 st1000 tiller pilot, with all install parts
>> > > >$115 nicro low profile vent
>> > > >$256 nicro powervent, with 4 inch thru deck vent
>> > > >$120 aqua signal tri tricolor and anchor light
>> > > >$170 contest 130 bulkhead compass
>> > > >$350 Bose speaker, cockpit mount
>> > > >$200 jvc marine am/fm/cd
>> > > >$200 icom vhf
>> > > >$400 3 sets of white/red combo LED lighting low power draw
>> > > >$200 link 10 power meter
>> > > >$200 bilge pumps(s), switch, counter
>> > > >$100 10 amp 3 stage charging., 110 volt charging
>> > > >$100 steaming/decklight
>> > > >$100 second breaker panel
>> > > >$1200 sealand vacuum head, custom fresh water tank, pursuer water
>> > > >$200 extra set cockpit drains
>> > > >$350 30 watt solar panel with 3 stage charging
>> > > >$300 AGM type 31 batties vs the standard #27
>> > > >$1400 misc, Stainless disc breaks, spare tire with mount, led trail
>> > > >lights, chokes, ball fender with cover, PVC pipe to lasseret,
>> > > >upgraded tinned wire thought-out, compass protected wire by it, bus bars,
>> > > >main breaker system, #2 wire motor start system, padeyes,
>> > > >cutter rig sail on cdi filler, etc.....
>> > > >
>> > > >15,961, oboy
>> > > >
>> > > >$61,541 total, one should never add up what they paid for a boat :-)
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >Now for some "intangibles", the boat has had all it's work done at the
>> > > >factory, the boats spent every winter down south at the
>> > > >factory and has never gone thought a deep freeze, all actions on the boat
>> > > >have been carefully watched over while their. The bare
>> > > >hull/deck was personal inspected by me in the driveway before any work was
>> > > >done, After 3 years all build "issues" have been
>> > > >corrected and tested in high wind conditions.  The boat is in great shape
>> > > >and ready to sail NOW. The boat has been upgraded to the
>> > > >latest 2003 standards.
>> > > >
>> > > >Now it is time for the Commercial :-)
>> > > >1)I have a 2 year old, that is child number 3.
>> > > >2)I just got back from the AC boat show and my wife "subjected" I get a
>> > > >bigger boat.
>> > > >3)I need to "strike while the iron is hot", plus I want to make deal with
>> > > >for the new boat for the spring
>> > > >4)I know this boat is not for everyone, it is loaded and then some.
>> > > >5)the prices are for everything "New", what it would cost today, now the
>> > > >boat is 3 years old(and in some ways better than a new
>> > > >boat, no "surprises" :-) and I want to make a quick deal. Someone could
>> > > >walk a way with a very good deal and a very fair price. I
>> > > >need to know what the boat is worth to you. (people spare me the stupid
>> > > >answers please)
>> > > >6)I do not want Stan hurt here, i.e. he loose a sale, if you are working
>> > > >with him now we will do the deal thought Stan(and price
>> > > >will be adjusted). If you are not working with GB so much the better.
>> > > >Depending on the buyers presences, General boats can prep the
>> > > >boats, arrange for delivery, take the new owner for a shake down cruse,
>> > > >make any modification or add options to the boat and can
>> > > >issue a 2 years new boat warrenty. Now I will have to compensate GB for
>> > > >this so "prices will be adjusted :-)"
>> > > >7)I think Stan might have a buyer already, But I hate using one of his
>> > > >buyers when he doing me a favor, be quick, time count here
>> > > >8)do not ask me what I am asking, A boat is only wroth what some is will
>> > > >to pay, I suspect their are few that are willing to pay as
>> > > >dearly as I did :-)
>> > > >
>> > > >MJM
>> > > >
>> > > >
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