[Rhodes22-list] Boat for sale

[stan]

Bill,

We have Michael's Boat here at the plant.  You indicated your price range so
we did not mention this boat since it is closer to double what you wanted to
spend.

Your mailing went out yesterday.

stan/gbi

----- Original Message -----
From: "Bill Potter" <pottersouth at yahoo.com>
To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Sent: Friday, January 23, 2004 8:19 AM
Subject: Re: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Boat for sale


> Michael:
>
> I didn't seem to get your orginal email and I've got some formatting
problems with the string - bottom line, what are you asking for your
Rhodes???  Sounds like a nice boat and very well outfitted!!
>
> Fair Winds,
> Bill
>
> Michael Meltzer <mjm at michaelmeltzer.com> wrote:
> Thanks.
>
> MJM
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mary Lou Troy"
> To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list"
> Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2004 8:49 AM
> Subject: Re: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Boat for sale
>
>
> > Michael
> > You should look at the IPs. Not sure about the length overall. A quick
look
> > at yachtworld seems to indicate that the IP26 had a LOA of 26"2" but
that
> > the IP 26 Mark II had an LOA of 30'. The earlier ones are more
affordable
> > anyway. There are two on yachtworld. One says the LOA is 30' for an 1982
so
> > you probably need to get out your tape measure.
> >
> >
http://www.yachtworld.com/core/listing/pl_boat_detail.jsp?currency=USD&units
=Feet&checked_boats=1019735&slim=quick&
> >
> >
>
http://www.yachtworld.com/core/listing/pl_boat_full_detail.jsp?slim=quick&bo
at_id=914598&units=Feet¤cy=USD&access=Public&listing_id=24744&url=
> >
> > I think what I hear you saying is that for right now interior counts.
IPs
> > are noted for that. I don't like the larger ones but there's a guy in
our
> > marina with a 27 that is a wonderful looking boat and he singlehands it
all
> > over the place.
> >
> > BTW, I wasn't dissing the Seaward so much as encouraging you to look
> > around. Good luck, whatever you decide. If I think of any other
> > possibilities I'll let you know.
> >
> >
> > Mary Lou
> >
> >
> > At 12:06 AM 1/21/2004 -0500, you wrote:
> > >everyone thanks for the ideas, I am listening, but still working and
lack
> > >of sleep are leaving little time for email tonight.. think
> > >of this as group therapy :-)
> > >
> > >1) I live in the NY area, dock rate are 120$ per foot and 28$ for
winter
> > >storage, now that 35 footer with the 3 foot bow and 1 foot
> > >rudder is around 5722 a year, ouch.
> > >2)I know the games to store the boat cheaper, CT has laws going back to
> > >the 1700's about public harbor use, been thier done that,
> > >but 3 kids on a tender is a pain in the ass.
> > >3)my town has put serval million into the docks, best docks I every
been
> > >on, they did not spare a penny, wind/wake/wave protected,
> > >has services, overnight guards and armed cop durring the day(3 police
> > >boats, comand shack and they realy want the duity), 1000$ from
> > >april 1 to nov31, two months longer than the rest of the dock, now the
> > >problem, 20 year waiting list for 28-34 foot space(the last
> > >space give out was signed up for in 1996, I have a way to go), the best
I
> > >can my hands on it 27'5' righ now.
> > >4)Would I like to built my 39 bruce roberts, or a 37 foot nuaicat, make
be
> > >PS 32 house, sure, but those are 200-350 new and even 20
> > >years old still 120+, even then thier going to be 40$ plus in overhual.
> > >5)CD can not point with the full keel and have to much wood :-)
> > >6)IRC racing rules boats, I do not want to live on my side.
> > >7)surpriced no one mentioned the IP 26 with centerboad
> > >8)I have to check the others, but time is a factor, I could build or
fix
> > >anything on a boat, the problem is I do not do it daily and
> > >am slow. I like sailing, getting larger mean a older boat and more of
my
> > >time fixing. the problem go up by the 3.5 power with
> > >size(and the price too :-)
> > >9)like to be able to store the boat my self, like to be able to walk
into
> > >the beach, need sleeping for 5 and that 27.5 number again,
> > >open to ideas and am listening, like to keep sail size down and boat
> > >"mass" so I can still single hand, I sail the sound, 3 day
> > >weekend and block island and such.
> > >
> > >Sleep time, I check in tomarrow.
> > >
> > >Here is the issues I am facing
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > >From:
> > >To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list"
> > >Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2004 5:04 PM
> > >Subject: Re: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Boat for sale
> > >
> > >
> > > > Michael: Kathy and I went through the Seaward 26RK with Stan and
> > > Elton. Nice. Sailed on a tiller model with an outboard.
> > >Nice! It would be a difficult choice to give up an R22 for a Seaward
26RK
> > >but there is definitely a market for folks like you who
> > >need something just a bit bigger.
> > > >
> > > > Lots of neat features can be built into both boats to make them just
> > > what you want.
> > > >
> > > > Bob and Kathy on the "NoKaOi"
> > > > >
> > > > > From: Michael Meltzer
> > > > > Date: 2004/01/19 Mon PM 08:19:49 EST
> > > > > To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> > > > > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Boat for sale
> > > > >
> > > > > yep, it looks like the seaward will work for us, the cockpit is
big
> > > enough to get the family on the water and the cabin can
> > >sleep
> > > > > all 5. frankly I would like to get something bigger, like a
nuaticat
> > > 37. but the bottom line is I do not have the time to use a
> > >boat
> > > > > like that, it is a shame. I was looking at a few others but eight
> > > they where overpriced or cheaply built, besides I like the
> > >fact
> > > > > that this is still trailable(good thing I got the excursion :-),
> > > shallow enough to walk in and has a 18 hp diesel(and hot water
> > >too
> > > > > :-), BTW thankyou, I did manage to get the truck started in -5. I
am
> > > surprized no one made a offer yet :-)
> > > > >
> > > > > MJM
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: "Rik Sandberg"
> > > > > To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list"
> > > > > Sent: Monday, January 19, 2004 7:12 PM
> > > > > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Boat for sale
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > Michael,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > So.....what now.........a new seaward 26???? :-) :-)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Your R 22 is a great boat, wish I was in the market. :-)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Rik
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > At 05:15 PM 1/19/2004, you wrote:
> > > > > > >Boat Show Package #2
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >IMF Innermast Furling Main.
> > > > > > >Special CDI Furling System With A 175% Reefing Genoa Sail:
Storm,
> > > Working
> > > > > > >Jib Or Deck Sweeping Genoa, Window, Self Cover, Adjustment
> > > > > > >Lines, Wind Tell-Tales.
> > > > > > >Genoa Hardware System:
> > > > > > >2 Genoa Tracks And Cars.
> > > > > > >2 Lewmar Winches And Winch Handle .
> > > > > > >Stainless Steel Bow Pulpit, Navigation Lights.
> > > > > > >Stainless Steel Stern Rail With Stern Light.
> > > > > > >Stainless Steel Or Teak, Cabin Top Rails.
> > > > > > >Stainless Steel Or Teak, Aft Cabin Grab Rails.
> > > > > > >Stainless Steel 8" Cast 4 Bolt Docking Cleats.
> > > > > > >Stainless Steel 10" Cast Rafting Bow Cleat.
> > > > > > >Stainless Steel 1/2" Bow & Stern Eyes.
> > > > > > >Enclosed Marine Head, Holding Tank, Deck Pump-Out.
> > > > > > >6'4" Adjustable Height Pop-Top.
> > > > > > >Galley: 15 Gallon Water On Demand System, Deck Fill, Vertical
Door Ice
> > > > > > >Chest, Deep Sink, 4.5' Counter, Upper And Lower Cabinets,
> > > > > > >Stove And Cutting Board.
> > > > > > >Electrical System: 110v S/P With 3 110v Cabin Outlets. 12v
Electric
> > > > > > >System, 6 Circuit, AC-DC Circuit Breaker, Two 12v Accessory
> > > > > > >Outlets, 6 Interior Lamps and Two #27 Batteries.
> > > > > > >Exclusive R-22 7:1 Outboard Motor Lift.
> > > > > > >Interior Cushions: 6 Piece Fabric Set.
> > > > > > >Two Taylor Cabin Top Hatches.
> > > > > > >Two Solar Panels.
> > > > > > >Stern Ladder With With Flat Steps.
> > > > > > >Hiking Stick With Hands-Off Tiller Locks.
> > > > > > >Molded Foam Flotation.
> > > > > > >Two Captain Swivel Seats.
> > > > > > >Three Piece Set Of Cockpit Cushions.
> > > > > > >And All The Other Rhodes Exclusive Features.
> > > > > > >Anchor Package: Colored Anchor, Pulpit Hangers, Deck Vent And
> > > > > > >Under-the-Deck Rope Locker.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >$35, 995 base boat show package. Plus: from gb options page
> > > > > > >$695 On Board Mast Hoist System
> > > > > > >$995 Pop Top Enclosure
> > > > > > >$200 with Installation
> > > > > > >$700+300+100 Life Rails/ Cockpit Life Lines/ double set.
> > > > > > >$495 4 Piece Cockpit Filler Cushions + Support Panels
> > > > > > >$395 Macerator Discharge / Discharge system .....Plus
> > > > > > >$95 with install
> > > > > > >$295 Second Battery with Installation
> > > > > > >$495 Bimini, Dual Positioning
> > > > > > >$2995 Unimatic Trailer, galinaivied
> > > > > > >$595 Anti-Fouling Paint, double coat
> > > > > > >$325 Mast Antenna, Co-Ax Cable, Disconnect Fittings
> > > > > > >$85 Installation of Radio, supplied by owner
> > > > > > >$175 Installation of Depth Finder, supplied by owner
> > > > > > >$150 Installation of Wall Mounted Compass, supplied by owner
> > > > > > >$495 4 Piece Cockpit Filler Cushions + Support Panels
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >45580 total so far :-)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >now for some off the list options.
> > > > > > >$4000 Yamaha 9.9 High thrust extra long shaft, remote tiller
controls,
> > > > > > >eclectic motor life, slave motor controls
> > > > > > >$800 Andersen st12 self tailing winches, pair
> > > > > > >$1000 Harken fueling
> > > > > > >$600 110% jib, with cover, upgraded low stretch, long life
fabric
> > > > > > >$700 135% jib with cover, upgraded low stretch, long life
fabric
> > > > > > >$1100 hood spinnaker(never used), hardware and pole
> > > > > > >$200 Main sail IMF also has the upgrade low stretch, long life
fabric
> > > > > > >$600 Raytheon st60 tridata
> > > > > > >$400 Raytheon st60 multi
> > > > > > >$600 st1000 tiller pilot, with all install parts
> > > > > > >$115 nicro low profile vent
> > > > > > >$256 nicro powervent, with 4 inch thru deck vent
> > > > > > >$120 aqua signal tri tricolor and anchor light
> > > > > > >$170 contest 130 bulkhead compass
> > > > > > >$350 Bose speaker, cockpit mount
> > > > > > >$200 jvc marine am/fm/cd
> > > > > > >$200 icom vhf
> > > > > > >$400 3 sets of white/red combo LED lighting low power draw
> > > > > > >$200 link 10 power meter
> > > > > > >$200 bilge pumps(s), switch, counter
> > > > > > >$100 10 amp 3 stage charging., 110 volt charging
> > > > > > >$100 steaming/decklight
> > > > > > >$100 second breaker panel
> > > > > > >$1200 sealand vacuum head, custom fresh water tank, pursuer
water
> > > > > > >$200 extra set cockpit drains
> > > > > > >$350 30 watt solar panel with 3 stage charging
> > > > > > >$300 AGM type 31 batties vs the standard #27
> > > > > > >$1400 misc, Stainless disc breaks, spare tire with mount, led
trail
> > > > > > >lights, chokes, ball fender with cover, PVC pipe to lasseret,
> > > > > > >upgraded tinned wire thought-out, compass protected wire by it,
> > > bus bars,
> > > > > > >main breaker system, #2 wire motor start system, padeyes,
> > > > > > >cutter rig sail on cdi filler, etc.....
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >15,961, oboy
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >$61,541 total, one should never add up what they paid for a
boat :-)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >Now for some "intangibles", the boat has had all it's work done
at the
> > > > > > >factory, the boats spent every winter down south at the
> > > > > > >factory and has never gone thought a deep freeze, all actions
on
> > > the boat
> > > > > > >have been carefully watched over while their. The bare
> > > > > > >hull/deck was personal inspected by me in the driveway before
any
> > > work was
> > > > > > >done, After 3 years all build "issues" have been
> > > > > > >corrected and tested in high wind conditions. The boat is in
> > > great shape
> > > > > > >and ready to sail NOW. The boat has been upgraded to the
> > > > > > >latest 2003 standards.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >Now it is time for the Commercial :-)
> > > > > > >1)I have a 2 year old, that is child number 3.
> > > > > > >2)I just got back from the AC boat show and my wife "subjected"
I
> > > get a
> > > > > > >bigger boat.
> > > > > > >3)I need to "strike while the iron is hot", plus I want to make
> > > deal with
> > > > > > >for the new boat for the spring
> > > > > > >4)I know this boat is not for everyone, it is loaded and then
some.
> > > > > > >5)the prices are for everything "New", what it would cost
today,
> > > now the
> > > > > > >boat is 3 years old(and in some ways better than a new
> > > > > > >boat, no "surprises" :-) and I want to make a quick deal.
Someone
> > > could
> > > > > > >walk a way with a very good deal and a very fair price. I
> > > > > > >need to know what the boat is worth to you. (people spare me
the
> > > stupid
> > > > > > >answers please)
> > > > > > >6)I do not want Stan hurt here, i.e. he loose a sale, if you
are
> > > working
> > > > > > >with him now we will do the deal thought Stan(and price
> > > > > > >will be adjusted). If you are not working with GB so much the
better.
> > > > > > >Depending on the buyers presences, General boats can prep the
> > > > > > >boats, arrange for delivery, take the new owner for a shake
down
> > > cruse,
> > > > > > >make any modification or add options to the boat and can
> > > > > > >issue a 2 years new boat warrenty. Now I will have to
compensate
> > > GB for
> > > > > > >this so "prices will be adjusted :-)"
> > > > > > >7)I think Stan might have a buyer already, But I hate using one
of his
> > > > > > >buyers when he doing me a favor, be quick, time count here
> > > > > > >8)do not ask me what I am asking, A boat is only wroth what
some
> > > is will
> > > > > > >to pay, I suspect their are few that are willing to pay as
> > > > > > >dearly as I did :-)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >MJM
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
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