[Rhodes22-list] Genoa question

Fri Jan 30 10:20:57 EST 2004

Bob,

      If you are into that heavy of a description, there are a couple of
Rhodes owners not,  not on the list who sail out of somewhere in
northeastern North Carolina or Southeastern Virginia who seriously race
their boats.  All I know is that they have standard rigs, and tuned to
speed.  I met one but I am not that serious about racing.  I did not
keep contact information.  But like that science fiction program used to
say, "They are out there ..."

                         Ed K

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Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Genoa question

Bob,

Like many technical things, the best answer to your question is "it

depends".  I'll try to explain.

The method of describing headsail size is expressed as a percent of the

perpendicular distance from the luff to the clew (not a horizontal

measurement) divided by the "J" dimension - the horizontal measurement

(parallel to the waterline) from the headsail tack point to the front of
the

mast.  Therefore, a headsail that is a "decksweeper" might not extend
past

the cabinhouse and measure to be a "180".  Alternately, the same sail
recut

to have a much higher clew also near, but much above the cabinhouse,
might

measure to be a "135".  In the second example, the sail would loose lots
of

area from the foot and would therefore be much less powerful and justify
the

lower measurement.

To check your headsail you can spread it out someplace, say in your
garage

or basement, and measure the perpendicular distance from the luff to the

clew.  Divide this distance by the R22 "J" dimension and you will know

exactly what size it is.  Off hand I don't know what J is for an R22,
but

I'll bet there are lots of folks on this list that do.

Fair and warmer winds to you.

PT

----- Original Message ----- 

From: "Robert Dilk" <Robert.Dilk at TRW.COM>

To: <rlipton at earthlink.net>; <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>

Sent: Friday, January 30, 2004 8:18 AM

Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Genoa question

130%, 150%, 175%

On my Rhodes 22 the clue of the Genoa reaches to the end of the coach
roof.

Can any one compare this to known Genoas and estimate the size of my

Headsail?

thanks

Bob S/V Knot Necessary

>>> rlipton at earthlink.net 01/29/04 09:40PM >>>

I have been thinking along those lines as well, But I probably won't do

it all at once.

UPS this year then perhaps going to a 130-150 with CDI furler next

season. There is

nothing worse than being out there with just a wisp, and enough chop to

spill any

air out. (Well maybe I can think of worse things...)

Ron

On Thursday, January 29, 2004, at 08:24 PM, Mary Lou Troy wrote:

> Michael, I've got to say there were about 5 days last summer where the

> 175 was just the perfect sail for conditions on the Bay. You can point

> higher with the genoa than with the UPS and the combination of

> windspeed and the direction we were headed was just right for the 175.

> When we go to replace the genoa, I wouldn't be adverse to bringing it

> down to 150 and then getting a smaller jib for the days you know

> you'll want one. For the Chesapeake, a 130 might be a little small

> especially if most of your sailing is upwind.

>

> Mary Lou

>

>

>

> At 08:05 PM 1/29/2004 -0500, you wrote:

>> I would think about getting an %110-130% and the UPS, with the UPS up

>> do not beed the 150-175% for light days and the 110 will work

>> on the highwind days. just a thought.

>>

>> MJM

>>

>>

>> ----- Original Message -----

>> From: "Ronald Lipton" <rlipton at earthlink.net>

>> To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>

>> Sent: Friday, January 30, 2004 12:34 PM

>> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Mainsail

>>

>>

>> > I am also interested in reports on the IMF main with batten.  My
'89

>> > mainsail is showing it's age and has been repaired at the clew.  I

>> have to

>> > decide whether to risk one more season with the old main.  I am

>> also

>> > thinking about springing for the UPS for this year...

>> >

>> > I hope Elton and the boat make it in one piece - it has been pretty

>> > ugly around here for the last few days.  Very cold - moderate

>> > snow - lots of salt on the roads.

>> >

>> > Ron Lipton

>> >

>> > ----- Original Message -----

>> > From: "stan" <stan at rhodes22.com>

>> > To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>

>> > Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2004 10:28 AM

>> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] some one has a virus

>> >

>> >

>> > > speaking of viruses reminds me to respond to Rummy's e-mail

>> concerning his

>> > > ordering a new IMF main sail.

>> > >

>> > > First I think anyone ordering another IMF main should get the

>> reports from

>> > > those who actually own the new IMF mains with batten.

>> > >

>> > > Second, sails from other suppliers do not have the proprietary

>> cut that

>> > > avoids the bottom of the sail from piling up and wrinkling and

>> being

>> > harder

>> > > to handle.  If you do not want the batten and do not have the

>> wrinkling

>> > cut

>> > > problem, fine.  Price wise the new IMF sails and those from other

>> > > sailmakers, from what Rummy was quoted, seem to be the same.

>> > >

>> > > Not doing this to sell sails - just don't want any owners to get

>> any

>> > madder

>> > > at us for not speaking up, than they already may be.

>> > >

>> > > stan/gbi

>> > >

>> > > PS:  If anyone is going to the Chi Show on Thursday, the Rhodes

>> will be

>> > > there under its road snow but Elton and the 26 won't make it
until

>> > Friday -

>> > > something to do with his trying to take advantage of the weather

>> to try

>> > > skiing with a van, trailer and a big boat.

>> > >

>> > >

>> > > ----- Original Message -----

>> > > From: "Michael Meltzer" <mjm at michaelmeltzer.com>

>> > > To: <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>

>> > > Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2004 8:40 PM

>> > > Subject: [Rhodes22-list] some one has a virus

>> > >

>> > >

>> > > Please people check you pc, some one has the latest virsu going

>> around, I

>> > > seeing it in the mail logs,

>> > > update and run your software.

>> > >

>> > > here a free checker (an frankly you should buy and run anti-virus

>> > software)

>> > > http://us.mcafee.com/root/mfs/default.asp

>> > >

>> > > MJM

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