[Rhodes22-list] Generator and Camping question... (a follow-u p)

Tue Jul 27 14:10:10 EDT 2004

Yeah, but getting to the charger or the batteries is more difficult than
just plugging the trailer into the gen.  Given that, it'll probably be best
to go with a little more generator.  

It looks like Yamaha is going to go after that market...

http://yamahagenerators.com/ef1000is.htm?cart=10909477372971758

so I bet they'll be coming out with a quiet and portable version of their
1600, which might be just the right size.  Maybe that'll put some price
pressure on Honda 2000, which basically has no real competition right now.  

Maybe the thing to do is to wait until I really need one.  Of course, then
it might be too late.  If I'd bought the Honda when you guys were talking
about it, I'd have one now and would have paid less for it.  I figured
prices would come down with additional competition, just like other
technologies.  Guess I misjudged the market!

I'll probably just waffle around on it until I really need the thing.  Maybe
it'll never happen and I'll have saved $1k!

-----Original Message-----
From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
[mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org]On Behalf Of Rik Sandberg
Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2004 12:23 PM
To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Generator and Camping question... (a
follow-u p)

Doug,

At 975 watts max, I would go for the 2000. Athough, you could probably get 
by with a 1000 if you by-passed the trailer inverter and charged you 
battery directly off the genset if it want to kick out the breaker. My 1000 
does have connections for 12 volt charging, directly off the genset.

Rik

At 09:41 AM 7/27/2004, you wrote:
>Thanks Rik!   Apparently Honda has decided to protect their brick and
mortar
>stores by restricting internet marketing.  Maybe that is why the prices
have
>gone up.  I found a couple of places around here selling the 1000 for $689
>and the 2000 for about $969.  The one place I stopped by near Brookville
was
>selling the 2000 for $1020.  I guess there is a lot of competition on the
>web.
>
>Looks like Yamaha has a 1000 watt generator designed to beat the Honda.
>Meats or beats it on almost every dimension, including cost (found it for
>$629).  Unfortunately, I just checked on the charger in my Airstream and it
>draws 975 watts (max).  That just seems a little too close for comfort.
Now
>I'm sure I probably won't hit it unless the batteries are dead, but it also
>wouldn't leave anything left over for lights!  So, I'm leaning toward the
>2000i.  I don't know, maybe a 1000 watt generator would be fine.  I'm just
a
>little leary of it given yours kicking out.
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
>[mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org]On Behalf Of Rik Sandberg
>Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2004 10:31 AM
>To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
>Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Generator and Camping question... (a
>follow-u p)
>
>
>Doug,
>
>Don't know why, but the Honda generators don't seem to be listed on the
>Northern Tool website. They are however, still listed in their catalog
>(spring/summer 2004 master catalog). EU1000, p/n 167201-2405, $729, EU2000,
>p/n 16672-2405, $999 If you are interested in one or the other you will
>apparently need to call 1-800-556-7885.
>
>Hope this helps
>
>Rik
>
>
>At 09:35 AM 7/26/2004, you wrote:
> >Thanks to everybody for the replies.  Sorry it took so long for me to get
> >back to it and let you all know I appreciate your thoughts.  Particularly
> >your's Roger!  Thank you for the contact info.
> >
> >Yes, activities for small children are important.  Actually, very small
(1
>&
> >3).  So, amusement parks are probably for the future.
> >
> >Now I need to evaluate all of the information and plan a trip.  I'm
>thinking
> >about trying to get up to the UP in 2 days, perhaps staying at Silver
lake
> >on the way up and maybe another LP park on the way back down.  But, my
wife
> >is still pushing for an IN-KY trip.  We'll see how it all works out.
> >
> >The primary reason for the generator is so that we wouldn't be tied to
> >hookups.  I'm still a backpacker at heart, and don't really care for the
> >parking lot approach to many of the state parks.  A lot of the NPs have
> >campsites that are a bit more secluded, but they rarely have electricity,
>so
> >I need a quiet way to recharge the batteries in case it is cold enough at
> >night to need to run the furnace. (See the 1 and 3 yr old kids for the
> >reason).
> >
> >At any rate, I'm going to check on the draw of my battery charger as Rik
> >suggested.  Then try to locate a decent price for the eu1000i if my
charger
> >is small enough draw, or the eu2000i if it is really needed.  I'd prefer
>the
> >1000, though, if I can get away with it.  It sure is a lot lighter!
> >
> >Any great soruces for them that you folks are aware of?  It doesn't look
> >like Northern Tool carries them anymore.
> >
> >--Doug
> >
> >ps: Rik, I'm still working on KY lake.  Need to work out issues like help
> >with the kids on the boat, etc.
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> >[mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org]On Behalf Of Steve Alm
> >Sent: Friday, July 23, 2004 12:21 AM
> >To: Rhodes
> >Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Generator and Camping question... (a
> >follow-up)
> >
> >
> >Doug,
> >
> >Among the best Minnesota has to offer is the Boundary Waters Canoe and
> >Wilderness Area.  Don't let the name fool you--it's a great place to
> >"car-camp" or RV too.  You can do the wilderness thing and go out on the
>big
> >portages, or you can stay in the roadside campgrounds--many have
hook-ups.
> >
> >This late in the season, it's probably impossible to get a permit to go
>into
> >the wilderness area.  They only let just so many people in and Aug is the
> >busy month.  They start taking reservations in January.  But you can
> >definitely find a place to park the trailer, swim, hike, bike, fish,
canoe
> >rentals, etc. without any prior reservation.
> >
> >I've been camping in the Boundary Waters since I was a teenager and
highly
> >recommend it.  It's a truly unique experience and you'll find no equal to
> >its vast but user-friendly watery wilderness.
> >
> >Slim
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Gardner, Douglas (LNG-DAY)" <douglas.gardner at lexisnexis.com>
> > > To: "Rhodes22-List (E-mail)" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > > Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2004 3:15 PM
> > > Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Generator and Camping question... (a
follow-up)
> > >
> > >
> > >> OK, all of you generator folks, now that you've had even more time to
> > >> evaluate your mini generators, how do you feel about them? I'm
thinking
> > >> about going ahead and getting one of those Honda's... thinking about
>the
> > >> eu1000i or the 2000i.
> > >> There is a difference of a few hundred bucks between them, so I
wonder
>if
> > >> I'll really need the bigger one.
> > >>
> > >> Use: primarily for camping.  Keeping the battery charged.  The
biggest
> > >> current draw would probably be the fan on the furnace.  I don't
pretend
> >to
> > >> think it would power the AC, or even the fridge (which I'd put on gas
>if
> >I
> > >> didn't have hook-ups)
> > >>
> > >> So no, this isn't really a sailing question.  But it is a follow-up
to
>an
> > >> old thread.  How 'bout it Rik et al?
> > >>
> > >> Related question:  Starting to plan about a week long camping trip,
and
> > > are
> > >> looking for recommendations not too far from Cincinnati.  Prefereably
> > > north.
> > >>
> > >> Northern Michigan would be good (probably LP, but could be eastern
UP).
> > >> Recommendations?  We'd be trailer camping (34' Airstream), not
> > > backcountry.
> > >> Robin suggested Kingston Ontario (she was there at a conference a few
> > > years
> > >> back and loved it.)  That seems a bit far for a weeklong trip with
>small
> > >> kids. Thoughts?
> > >>
> > >> Thought about picking Rik's brain about northern Minn... but for a
week
> > > with
> > >> kids pulling a large trailer, that seemed a bit ambitious.
> > >>
> > >> I've been to Nicolet NF in Northern WI... used to go there every
year.
> > > But
> > >> haven't been in 10 years and heard it is more crowded now.  Truth?
> > >>
> > >> Anyway, I appreciate your thoughts.
> > >>
> > >> --Doug
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