[Rhodes22-list] V berth floatation

[Rob Lowe]

Roger,
I see we both have '76's and basically the same set up.  The foam in mine
has just come unbonded from the hull and has shifted.
- Rob

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Roger Pihlaja" <cen09402 at centurytel.net>
To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2004 8:32 AM
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] V berth floatation


> Michael, Rummy,
>
> Until I covered it with marine grade plywood several years ago, the top &
> aft end of the bow floatation foam in my 1976 Rhodes 22 was exposed.  As
old
> as it is, it was getting kind of brittle or friable; but, it was still
> bonded quite firmly to the inside of the hull.  It appears the factory
left
> the inside of the hull unfinished in the area where the foam was to be
> installed.  Leaving the hull unfinished provided the foam with a rough
> surface to attach to.  In adhesive bonding technology, the rough surface
is
> said to have a lot of "tooth" that the foam can flow around & interlock
> with.  So, there is both an adhesive as well as a mechanical bond between
> the foam and the hull.
>
> If your bow floatation foam is encased in fiberglass, what difference does
> it make if the foam is still bonded to the hull or not?  The encapsulated
> foam couldn't go anywhere even if it where not bonded to the hull, could
it?
>
> Roger Pihlaja
> S/V Dynamic Equilibrium
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Michael Meltzer" <mjm at michaelmeltzer.com>
> To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2004 11:01 PM
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] V berth floatation
>
>
> > Stan methods have changed over the years, as of now he uses a polished
> stainless mold with release on it. The stuff does not stick
> > to it. The pour the stuff into the space and press the steel to form it,
> it ends up forms a good skin that is well "stuck" to the
> > hull and hard for the workers to mess up. Now In years past.... build a
> dam...glass over...etc.. The stuckage most likly is a
> > "feature" of the form used for that pour(and how well mixed), it changed
> over the years with different suppliers which it leading to
> > different long term results(remember what they think will happen over 20
> years for the stuff is only a good guess when they first
> > make it).
> >
> > MJM
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: <R22RumRunner at aol.com>
> > To: <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2004 9:06 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] V berth floatation
> >
> >
> > > QUESTION????
> > > I've been following this thread about the v berth flotation and I'm
> > > wondering how you know that the foam has shrunk or whatever. On my 88
> model, it  is
> > > entirely encased in fiberglass and without cutting the v berth to
> shreds, I
> > > would never know the foams condition. Also, if it has shrunk, what
> caused  this?
> > > Rummy
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