[Rhodes22-list] New Owner Questions ...

[Robert Dobson]

Roger, Thanks I will definitely make the adjustments
Its sound like the source of the leaks.--- Roger
Pihlaja <cent09402 at century tel.net> wrote:
> Bob,
> 
> OK, why don't we want the gutter drains in the
> extreme front corners of the
> cockpit seats?
> 
> If you look under the seats in the front corners of
> the cockpit, you will
> see an opening in the bulkhead between the cockpit
> and the cabin.  This
> opening is located just under the seats & is
> required by the manufacturing
> process used to construct the boat.  It turns out
> that GIB adjusts the
> fore/aft position of the internal ballast in the
> keel to cause the boat to
> trim slightly bow down when there is no one on
> board.  This trim allows the
> boat to float level on the waterline when there are
> people in the cockpit
> adding their weight to the stern of the boat.
> 
> Dynamic Equilibrium, a 1976 Rhodes 22, had your
> unattended rain water
> leakage problem.  I struggled with the problem for a
> very long time before I
> accidental figured it out.  Here's what I found. 
> When the boat is
> unattended & the fore/aft trim is slightly bow down,
> large amounts of rain
> water are efficiently collected by the cockpit
> seats.  Part of this rain
> water is directed by the seat gutters to the gutter
> drains in the front
> corners of the cockpit.  With the gutter drains in
> the corners and fore/aft
> trim bow down, this water actually runs into the
> opening in the cabin
> bulkhead and finds its way into the bilge!  You will
> never discover this
> problem when you are on board investigating, because
> your weight affects the
> fore/aft trim, the water drains down into the
> cockpit as it you would
> expect, & the problem goes away while you are on the
> boat.  The solution is
> to close up the corner drain holes with epoxy and
> re drill these holes a
> couple of inches aft.  Another good precaution is to
> apply a blob of epoxy
> to the underside of the seat drain gutter
> (underneath the cockpit seats)
> just fore and aft of the new drain holes.  These
> blobs of epoxy will provide
> defined "drip points" to prevent water from
> migrating along the underside of
> the drain gutters and causing a new "leak" in some
> other unexpected
> location.  Instead any water wicking along the
> underside of the gutter will
> be collect at the blob of epoxy and harmlessly drip
> down onto the cockpit
> sole.
> 
> As far as all the other possible leaks, the best way
> to find them is to seal
> yourself up inside the cabin.  Then, have an
> assistant spray the boat with
> water from a hose while you search for leaks in the
> cabin.  Spray for at
> least a minute on each potential leak source.
> 
> You might still want the inboard Genoa tracks for
> those times when you
> roller reef your 175% Genoa down to less than about
> 100% and are on points
> of sail more upwind than a beam reach.
> 
> Good luck!
> 
> Roger Pihlaja> S/V D ynamic Equilibrium
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Robert Dodson" <Robertson777 at yahoo.com>
> To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list"
> <Rhodes22-list at Rhodes22.orgy>
> Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2004 11:04 PM
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] New Owner Questions ...
> 
> 
> > Roger, Thank you for your insight. So with the
> larger
> > head sail I really do not need the inside tracks.
> As
> > for my leaky problem,I have throughly gone Thur
> the
> > inside of the cabin and can see no evidence of any
> > leaks . As to the gutters of the seats , yes I
> have
> > drains, but drilling them farther back, I am
> missing
> > something, because they would still seem to drain
> out
> > into the main cockpit in the center of the rear of
> the
> > cockpit. I addressed the Laurette possibility but
> no
> > success.  The area I have not been able to check
> is
> > the hose which leads the centerboard pennant. How
> do I
> > get at this to check It? Thanks for your help.
> >
> > Bob Dodson
> > s/v Ker Lee--- Roger Pihlaja
> <cent09402 at century tel.net>
> > wrote:
> > > Bob,
> > >
> > > Question #1:
> > >
> > > With any foresail bigger than about 100%, route
> the
> > > sheets outside of the
> > > shrouds on all points of sail.
> > >
> > > Question #2:
> > >
> > > Check the following:
> > >
> > > Do you have drains in the gutters on the seats
> in
> > > the cockpit located in the
> > > extreme front corners of the cockpit, port &
> > > starboard?  If you do; then,
> > > you may have found your unattended boat leak! 
> Plugs
> > > those drain holes up
> > > with epoxy & re drill the drain holes in the
> gutters
> > > a couple of inches aft.
> > >
> > > Are your cockpit seat gutter drains clogged up &
> not
> > > flowing freely?  If so,
> > > they may be allowing rainwater to overflow the
> > > cockpit seat gutters into the
> > > Laurette compartment, which is connected to the
> > > bilge.
> > >
> > > Do you have any fittings Thur the cockpit sole
> which
> > > may be leaking?  They
> > > may need to be re bedded.
> > >
> > > Is the cockpit sole drain/Thur hull leaking into
> the
> > > lazarette compartment?
> > >
> > > Is the hose which leads the centerboard pennant
> from
> > > the cockpit down to the
> > > centerboard leaking?
> > >
> > > Are you certain you don't have a leak from a
> deck
> > > fitting, hull deck joint,
> > > chain plate, or port?
> > >
> > > Good Luck!
> > >
> > > Roger Pihlaja
> > > S/V Dynamic Equilibrium
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Robert Dobson"
> <robertdobson777 at yahoo.com>
> > > To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list"
> > > <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2004 6:45 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] New Owner Questions
> ...
> > >
> > >
> > > > I to have a two questions for the
> board...---too
> > > > #1 my Rhodes22 does not have inside tracts
> > > installed.
> > > > I have 175 jib and Intermast main . Obviously
> I
> > > sail
> > > > with full blown jib out side the the shrouds.
> From
> > > the
> > > > discussion so far it is not a big benefit with
> the
> > > 175
> > > > to go inside. I shorten up to tach but
> otherwise I
> > > am
> 
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