[Rhodes22-list] Boom vang
Mary Lou Troy
mltroy at verizon.net
Wed Jun 23 09:05:09 EDT 2004
Michael,
I think you are right though one of our main uses for a vang would be in
light air and chop when some people might have the pop-top up. We almost
always sail with it down so that wouldn't be a problem. As it is we've been
known to throw a dockline over the boom to hold it down in those conditions
- it can make a noticeable improvement.
Mary Lou
1991 R22 Fretless
Swan Creek, MD / Ft. Washington, PA
At 11:17 PM 6/22/2004 -0400, you wrote:
>you are forgetting about the sail, I came out with a few ideas over the
>years to solve this, but in the end they were to
>complicated, I also give you a simple observation, if the pop-top is up
>you do not need a vang. I would subject: bail on the mast
>base with a though quickpin(pushbutton), bail on the boom, 3:1 vang with
>snap shackles, a piece of stainless on the pop-top where
>the vang/bail will stick to keep screeches down. when you want the poptop
>up, take the vang off, pull the quickpin and flip the bail
>to the other side. KISS.
>
>MJM
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Todd Tavares" <sprocket80 at mail.com>
>To: "mThe Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2004 9:50 PM
>Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Boom vang
>
>
> >
> > Jim,
> >
> > If you can come up with an upside down solid or sprung boom vang
> > that works in all conditions and on all points of sail, then I would
> > love to see it. Everything is a trade-off right?
> >
> > What is wrong with a traditional vang setup and not sailing with
> > the pop top up? I have seen one R22 with a vang. There was a
> > traditional bail on the boom, and a bail which was attached to an
> > longer mast bolt. The owner left the quick pin out of the pop top
> > slider until he was ready to release the vang and pop the top up. See
> > the attached pic for the mast end. I believe Roger has a boom vang
> > on his 1976 with a standard mast.
> >
> > Todd
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Jim Connolly"
> > Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2004 18:43:46 -0400
> > To: "'The Rhodes 22 mail list'"
> > Subject: RE: vang (was Re: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Le
> > Menagerie:SPITexas-Aftershakedown)
> > > Maybe this is a stupid idea, but...
> > >
> > > What about a solid vang above the boom, attached from the mast a few
> > feet
> > > above the gooseneck extending aft and down to the boom?
> > >
> > > Advantage - wouldn't interfere with the pop top. Could be adjustable
> > if it
> > > were flexible and/or sprung and had a tackle.
> > > Disadvantages - expensive, complex, adds weight higher, interfered
> > with
> > > airflow low on the sail.
> > >
> > > I'm thinking something like a boomkicker installed upside-down.
> > >
> > > What say you all? Disadvantages outweigh advantages?
> > >
> > > Jim Connolly
> > > s/v Inisheer
> > > '85
> > >
> > & gt;
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> > > [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Mary Lou
> > Troy
> > > Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2004 2:29 PM
> > > To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> > > Subject: vang (was Re: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Le Menagerie:SPI
> > > Texas-Aftershakedown)
> > >
> > > Bob,
> > > I'd like to see pictures. Did the mast fitting come with your boat?
> > Any idea
> > > where to find one?
> > >
> > > Mary Lou
> > >
> > > >
> > > > From: "Bob Weber"
> > > > Date: 2004/06/22 Tue PM 12:43:33 EDT
> > > > To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> > > > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Le Menagerie:SPI Texas-After
> > shakedown
> > > >
> > > > Jim, I have a vang and recommend one to anyone who wants to have
> > good
> > > > sail shape. The arrangement is simple. First there is a pad eye on
> > > > the underside of the boo m. The mast fitting slides down the
> > groove in
> > > > the mast with a stopper slid in on top of it. Both of these
> > fittings
> > > > are on top of the poptop slider. Therefore the poptop must be down
> > to
> > > > use the vang. You attach a 4:1 purchase to the pad eye on the boom
> > > > and the sliding shackle on the mast and tighten down the stopper
> > to
> > > > keep it from sliding up toward the gooseneck. I have never seen
> > the
> > > > "shackle" which slides into the mast groove before this boat so my
> > > > discription might not sound clear. I will provide pictures if you
> > > > need. Bob Weber
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >From: Steve
> > > > >Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> > > > >To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> > > > >Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Le Menagerie:SPI Texas-After
> > shakedown
> > > > >Da te: Tue, 22 Jun 2004 09:21:27 -0700 (PDT)
> > > > >
> > > > >Jim
> > > > >If I remember right, Mary Lou has a vang. I think see posted some
> > > > >pics a while back.
> > > > >Steve
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >--- Jim White wrote:
> > > > > > Hi ya'll
> > > > > > Haven't had a chance to post since putting Le Menagerie in the
> > > > > > water. We had to replace some of the standing rigging, and
> > make
> > > > > > some small changes, but finally got through the shakedown
> > about
> > > > > > two weeks ago. WHAT A BOAT! The
> > > > > > R-22 is about the friendliest boat I've ever handled!!! Even
> > with
> > > > > > our old blown out sails, it still points decently high, and
> > > > > > downwind with the big genny is tons of fun.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Fathers day, I took it out into the open Gulf
> > > > > > (Winds: 12 g 20 / seas-2,3')
> > > > > > and had a blast. It was a maze of shallow water, and other
> > boats
> > > > > > (both sail and power, some large), to get out of the bay, not
> > to
> > > > > > mention beating the whole way, but she never missed a tack.
> > The
> > > > > > Gulf was blue and fresh, and we trolled for kingfish for
> > awhile,
> > > > > > before heading in on the run, wing-on-wing, and then a long
> > reach
> > > > > > to Port Isabel.
> > > > > > Motored into our harbor
> > > > > > (the entrance is a nightmare at low tide, it's only about 75'
> > > > > > wide, and so shallow that even we have to stay to the far port
> > > > > > side to enter....channel is silted in). BTW the 9.9, 4-stroke
> > > > > > Honda is sweet, more than enough for the boat....
> > > > > >
> > > > > > We're locked into the summer pattern here, light winds and
> > small
> > > > > > seas (barring a hurricane "event"). Hoping to sail up to
> > Corpus
> > > > > > Christi in July (about 120 miles up the coast). Right now I'm
> > > > > > thinking of adding a vang? Is there something in the archives
> > > > > > about that, or has anyone else added one (I'm sure you
> > probably
> > > > > > have!)...hope I'm not listing redundantly!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks for all of your help and guidance with this great
> > boat....
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Jim White
> > > > > >
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