qestion and RE: [Rhodes22-list] Just a thought.

Glen & Dorene Barrera dbarrera at comcast.net
Mon Jun 28 23:01:16 EDT 2004


Mary Lou,

Dorene and I have always felt comfortable with this list. We have met
several R22 owners over the years and feel we know others just from being on
this list. I guess it is a matter of trust.

For whatever reason, some of us have decided to move to a bigger boat. It
was not because we didn't like the R22. Had Stan a larger boat in
production, we would have been the first to put an order in. We opted for
"Seaward Distributers, Inc. A General Boats Company" because it still
involved the people we have grown to respect. We still feel the R22 is the
best boat available for it's size and we will miss her... but it was time to
move up.

Yes, there has been a lot of chatter on the list re: the 26, three of us
picked up a new boat within a three week time period...I also feel
disappointed with some of the initial posts.

However, I would like to thank you, and the others, for your tolerance and
support.

Glen and Dorene

PS.  Nice change of pace:)

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mary Lou Troy" <mltroy at verizon.net>
To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Sent: Monday, June 28, 2004 7:37 AM
Subject: qestion and RE: [Rhodes22-list] Just a thought.


> I'm with Mark on this. I'd hate to have to subscribe to 5 or 6 different
> lists to find out what my buds, the former Rhodies are up to. The Seaward
> RK 26 appears to be a logical move up from an R22, though it appears that
> 36 & 37 footers are currently popular.
>
> So here's a question for all the Rhodies out there, if you were to move up
> (over or down) - what would your next boat be and why? One of the main
> reasons we've stayed small is the ease of maintenance. We like having a
> boat on the Chesapeake that we can haul home for the winter. We've talked
> about retiring down near the Bay and that has brought consideration of a
> bigger boat. Right now I've been looking at Tartan 28s. Supposedly good
> sailing, Sparkman & Stevens design, nice deck layout (with the exception
of
> the bridgedeck traveller which would take some getting used to), good
> cockpit, good engine access, good interior layout and some are even
> available tiller-steered. Seems like a nice boat for a couple who still
> would want to do a lot of daysailing but might want to take off on longer
> trips.
>
> Anyone else want to take a stab at this?
>
> Mary Lou
> 1991 Rhodes 22 Fretless
> Swan Creek, MD / Ft. Washington, PA
>
>
> At 07:42 AM 6/28/2004 -0400, you wrote:
> >Michael,
> >
> >Bob and Nancy Quinn are the ones w/ the Tartan 37 - Julie and I have a
> >Tayana 37.
> >
> >And my two cents worth on this topic - if it ain't broke, don't fix it.
If
> >we can allow the political rants we've seen, surely we can allow boats
other
> >than the R22 to be discussed, as well.
> >
> >Mark
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> >[mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org]On Behalf Of Michael Meltzer
> >Sent: Monday, June 28, 2004 1:46 AM
> >To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> >Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Just a thought.
> >
> >
> >I can agree with this :-), mjm does not like to work more than the next
man.
> >I have to admit I do find the topic a little strange, I
> >figured this might have been a problem and asked a few months ago, it
seemed
> >that most were ok with it, now that it is a fact, some
> >of the same people have a problem. OK, I am sitting druming my fingures
on
> >what to do, like I have a question about the macys fire
> >works/hellgate/anchorage ,an other about puting on names and have I a
answer
> >about "centen". Should I even bother asking or
> >answering?  Next problem if people did not want me here who should I hand
> >the list over to, Mark a 37 tartan, Will is a seaward 26
> >and so and I, they will be subject the same "problem".  Now sailnet or
yahoo
> >groups would work but they have thier warts. Resomable
> >people made a resonable statement/request, My problem is I am human too
and
> >feel a little rejected, just do not have the hart to
> >deal with the list tonight.
> >
> >MJM
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Wally Buck" <tnrhodey at hotmail.com>
> >To: <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> >Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2004 8:57 PM
> >Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Just a thought.
> >
> >
> > > I agree, heck this list doesn't have much traffic as it is. Why make
MJM
> > > have to work any harder supporting two lists. Maybe Rummy was going to
run
> > > the new server. ;-)
> > >
> > > PS Ric - I went sailing Saturday and Sunday.
> > >
> > > Wally
> > >
> > >
> > > >From: "Dan Bodnar" <dsbodnar at earthlink.net>
> > > >Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > > >To: "'The Rhodes 22 mail list'" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > > >Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Just a thought.
> > > >Date: Sun, 27 Jun 2004 13:57:14 -0400
> > > >
> > > >As a regular reader and occasional contributor, I too gave some
thought
> >to
> > > >space taken up by the Seaward dialog, and also came to some
conclusions.
> > > >
> > > >I happen to agree that it is the people that makes this list what it
is.
> > > >The discussion of a 'foreign' boat isn't much different than the
> >political
> > > >and sports discussions that get going on the list.  It all makes up
the
> > > >character of this list, and often provides excellent food for
thought.
> >The
> > > >biggest improvement to the management of the list has been the
discipline
> > > >I've seen everyone use in keeping the subject line on topic.
> > > >
> > > >Although I'd move up to the (Still Only A Dream) Rhodes 26, this
> >afternoon
> > > >if I could, I like hearing the experiences people are having with
other
> > > >boats, Flicka, Seaward, classic runabouts, Rhodes 19 etc.  These are
> >people
> > > >I've come to know and their comments, positive and negative, go a
long
> >way
> > > >in influencing my choices and opinions.
> > > >
> > > >I also think that a lot of the chatter about the Seaward will settle
down
> > > >after the boats are delivered and get sorted out.  These people still
> >have
> > > >a
> > > >lot of good Rhodes experience to share with the group. I'd hate to
have
> > > >them
> > > >feel unwelcome, because they are sailing something else, at the
moment.
> > > >
> > > >There is something to be said about the GBI umbrella too.
> > > >
> > > >Dan Bodnar
> > > >SV; QOL, '92 Rhodes 22
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >-----Original Message-----
> > > >From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> > > >[mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Rik Sandberg
> > > >Sent: Saturday, June 26, 2004 12:02 PM
> > > >To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> > > >Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Just a thought.
> > > >
> > > >Rummy and all,
> > > >
> > > >Yeah, you are right about the traffic on the Seaward. BUT, I was
thinking
> > > >about this too. True this list is named the R22 list, but when we
really
> > > >think about it, isn't it really more like the "I bought a boat from
Stan
> > > >and/or Elton list"?? In my estimation we (at least I) are here more
> >because
> > > >our friends, or people we know are here, than because of which brand
of
> > > >boat we have. I know there are other Seaward forums already and I'm
sure
> > > >most who are migrating to the 26 probably are already communicating
on
> > > >those as well. I also belong to the Flicka 20 list, but I still come
here
> > > >because I like you Rummy, as well as a lot of other folks on the
list.
> > > >Also, this list tends to be a little less full of the topic police
than
> > > >most and is more fun to be around because the topic tends to vary
from
> >day
> > > >to day.
> > > >
> > > >I can't say if this diversity is a good thing or a bad thing for the
> >list.
> > > >I suppose opinion on this will vary from one person to the next. For
me
> > > >(yes I know I'm now an outsider) coming here is more about staying in
> >touch
> > > >with my friends than talking about a specific boat.
> > > >
> > > >Just my 2 cents worth, probably wasn't worth that much though. :-)
> > > >
> > > >Hey, somebody sail a little bit for me. Let me know where we went.
I'm
> > > >working again this weekend.....as usual.
> > > >
> > > >Rik
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >At 09:07 AM 6/26/2004, you wrote:
> > > > >I have waited several weeks before writing this post, so a little
bit
> >of
> > > > >thought has gone into writing this.
> > > > >I have noticed that the amount of mail concerning the new RK26 is
> > > > >overwhelming the list. Not that this is a bad thing, it's just that
I
> > > > >don't have  any
> > > > >interest in it.
> > > > >I would like to throw up for discussion the possibility of another
list
> > > >for
> > > > >the RK26 owners. It is not a Rhodes design hull and I think they
need a
> > > >new
> > > > >home.
> > > > >
> > > > >Rummy
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