[Rhodes22-list] Purchasing new genny????

[Mark Kaynor]

Paul,

We have the 175%, a 135%, and the UPS on Raven. We had a foam luff pad added
to the 175 last year and I wish we hadn't. While it helps maintain sail
shape over a larger furling range, I think it also adversely affected
performance in lower winds. With the 135, we really don't need the luff pad,
anyway.

Like you, we prefer not to use the 175 in over about 10 knots of wind. We
have the CDI furler, and usually make our headsail decision at the dock
based on the forecast and current conditions.

The 135 has proven to be a good choice for our location. We've sailed it in
20-25 kts gusting to the mid-30s without too much trouble. Fully unfurled
sailing on just the headsail a 35 kt gust has caused us to heel enough to
lift the  rudder out of the water and head us up - at that point we just
furl some and carry on. I'd rather not be out in much more wind than that.

I think if we regularly had wind over about 15-20 kts, I'd like to add a 100
or a 110 to our suit. We seem to average around 5-15 on our lake, so I think
we're pretty well set for our current needs.

You've probably seen my posts r.e. the UPS - great sail.


Mark Kaynor

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[mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org]On Behalf Of Paul Grandholm
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I've been following this thread with interest.  I have the 175 genny and
love it in most cases.  However, it does make the boat significantly
overpowered in anything over 10 knots (probably 8 knots).  If you're just
cruising, the assumption is that you just reef or furl until you're
balanced and keep going.  The truth is however, that you can only furl
the headsail so much before you lose sail shape and boat speed.  The
problem is also that if we're all honest, the only guy that's cruising is
the guy that's behind and can't catch up.  There is no such thing as a
perfect sail for all conditions.  Stan once said that the 175 comes the
closest because you can sail well in light air and furl as much as you
have to in heavier air.  I agree.  I think that the next time I need a
new headsail, I will try to get a new furler that will allow me to change
foresails without taking down the mast.  I will probably get the new UPS
or whatever it's called that Mary Lou et al have and then a 150 or 135
with a foam luff pad for heavier air.

Paul
>
>My boat must be light or something. At 20 heading upwind my 125 is furled
to
>keep me off the rail and I am fighting a 30 degree heel.  Most likely the
>boom is lowered halfway as well. I like exciting sails as much as anyone
and
>more than most. Too bad you can't try sails out and return them like
clothes
>that don't quite fit!
>
>Still have an open mind .....
>
>Wally
>
>>From: "Bill Effros" <bill at effros.com>
>>Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Purchasing new genny????
>>Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2004 23:04:45 -0500
>>
>>Twice in one day.
>>
>>Again, Wally, I agree with Rummy.  I rarely furl below 20 knots.  I sail
>>the boat upright with minimum heel.  I generally sail alone.  The 175
makes
>>it very easy to come about.  I adjust sail sizes to keep the boat well
>>balanced.  When I'm sailing in crowded harbors I reduce the size of the
175
>>so I can see the traffic better.
>>
>>Bill Effros
>>
>>
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: R22RumRunner at aol.com
>>To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
>>Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2004 5:18 PM
>>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Purchasing new genny????
>>
>>
>>Wally,
>>When you furl depends a lot on your style of sailing and how much ballast
>>(people weight) you have with you. When alone, I never furl until the
winds
>>gust
>>above 20 knots. Below that and I'm comfortable. The 175 is an awesome
sail.
>>Besides looking good, it is an excellent performer in lite air as Bill
>>mentioned. By the way, I think this is one of the first times anyone has
>>agreed with me
>>on the list.....I appreciate your support Bill.
>>
>>
>>Rummy
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