[Rhodes22-list] How to Come About

Tue Mar 16 19:58:38 EST 2004

Rummy and Steve,

Sweating the line between the two winches:  Check.
Less stress on the track and block:  Check.
Drill the galley wench:   Check.

I love this list!  You can really pick up the finer points of sailing.  8-)

Slim

On 3/16/04 7:09 PM, "Steve" <rhodes2282 at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Slim
> What Rummy said is the main thing but also I think you
> are putting a heavy load on the genona track & block
> by not using both winches.
> Steve
> 
> --- Steve Alm <salm at mn.rr.com> wrote:
>> Bill,
>> 
>> Fine indeed!  Those are great instructions.  If/when
>> my jib gets hung up,
>> I'm probably letting the lee sheet go too soon
>> and/or too quickly.  I'll
>> have to work on that.
>> 
>> A question about "cross-sheeting" to the opposite
>> winch:  Why wrap the sheet
>> around BOTH winches?  When I cross-sheet, the lee
>> sheet goes through its
>> lead block (car) and then directly across to the
>> weather winch and cleat and
>> vice versa.  That is, the starboard sheet goes to
>> the port winch and port
>> sheet to starboard winch.  I only rig this way if I
>> know I'll want to be on
>> the high side on every tack.  Also, I only do this
>> when single-handing since
>> the sheets across the cockpit get in the way of the
>> galley wench serving me
>> my drinks.  
>> 
>> Slim
>> 
>> On 3/16/04 10:54 AM, "Bill Effros" <bill at effros.com>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Lou,
>>> 
>>> The Rhodes 22 is a completely unique boat with a
>> set of features not available
>>> on any other boat.  If these features are right
>> for you, you will be thrilled
>>> with the boat.  Because the boat is truly unique,
>> many of the "tips"
>>> "pointers" "warnings" and "rules" you may have
>> read elsewhere simply don't
>>> apply.  
>>> 
>>> There is no trick to coming about with the 175 on
>> a Rhodes -22.  Most people
>>> simply release it too early.
>>> 
>>> You are sitting in the captain's seat on the high
>> side of the boat.  (Get the
>>> captain's seats.)
>>> 
>>> On the previous tack you have led the jib sheet
>> around the winch on the low
>>> side, where the jib is deployed, and then once
>> around the winch on the high
>>> side, and then into the clam cleat.  The line goes
>> straight across the
>>> cockpit.
>>> 
>>> Let us say you are sitting on the port side, in
>> your captain's seat.  You have
>>> the hiking stick for your tiller in your right
>> hand.  You have a drink in your
>>> left hand.  Your left arm is on the padding on the
>> stern rail which functions
>>> like the arm of an extremely comfortable arm
>> chair.  Your feet are splayed out
>>> on top of the cockpit seats.  Music is playing on
>> your stereo.  For some
>>> reason you decide to tack.
>>> 
>>> Push the tiller toward the sail.
>>> 
>>> Now you must make a momentous decision.  Will you
>> switch captain's seats after
>>> you tack?  If so, you should place your drink in
>> the cup holder on the
>>> starboard stern rail--which will force you to get
>> out of your captain's seat
>>> on the port side.  If not, you may remain seated
>> while you place your drink in
>>> the cup holder on the port stern rail.  Failure to
>> anticipate this question
>>> can leave you in a captain's seat with your drink
>> on the other side of the
>>> boat!  This is the trickiest part of the maneuver.
>>> 
>>> At some point you will notice that the boom has
>> moved from the starboard side
>>> to the port side of the boat.  It moved gently
>> across, and did not hit your
>>> head.  There was no drama.  There was no
>> pandemonium.
>>> 
>>> You will also notice that the huge belly of the
>> 175 jib, still firmly cleated,
>>> has sagged across the boat, and you can see it is
>> helping to pull the bow
>>> about, even before the boom switches sides.
>>> 
>>> If you sheeted the jib too tightly around the
>> shrouds, the 175 won't help you
>>> come about.  Slowly loosen the sheet (remember it
>> is cleated right below your
>>> drinking hand, and you may have to put your drink
>> down--see above for
>>> caution.)  Wait for the boat to come about.
>>> 
>>> Please note, you do not fully release the jib
>> until after the boat has come
>>> about.  The boat is now sailing with the main
>> full, and the jib fighting to
>>> deploy fully on the other side of the boat.
>> Slowly release the jib on what is
>>> now the high side, and pull in the line on what is
>> now the low side.  If you
>>> decided to stay in your original captain's chair,
>> you are still sitting in it,
>>> with all of the lines and controls within reach
>> for this and every subsequent
>>> tack.  If not, you must wrap the jib sheet around
>> the winch on what is now the
>>> low side, and feed it to the winch and cleat on
>> what will be the high side
>>> where you will be sitting.
>>> 
>>> In either case, both jib lines are in your hands.
>> You release one in a
>>> controlled manner, and pull the other.  The jib
>> does not drag across the
>>> foredeck, and it does not hang up on the shrouds.
>> (I don't have rollers or
>>> covers on any shrouds.)  It behaves more like a
>> kite over which you have
>>> complete control, as it floats over the foredeck
>> from one side to the other.
>>> 
>>> After you've done this a few times, it starts to
>> look like everything is
>>> happening at once.  But it isn't.  Never release
>> the jib until after the boom
>>> has gone across and the main is full, and you will
>> never miss a tack.  Don't
>>> let the jib sheet go all at once or you will not
>> be able to pull in the jib
>>> sheet on the other side quickly enough, and it
>> will get wet.
>>> 
>>> If this fails to work, there are only 2 possible
>> reasons: either there is too
>>> little or too much wind.  But not to worry.
>> Nothing is lost.  Pull the hiking
>>> stick toward you, and away from the sails.
>> Release the jib sheet, and furl
>>> the jib! (Maintain tension on the jib line so the
>> line wraps around the roller
>>> furler drum properly.)  Pull in the main sheet as
>> far as it will go.  Gibe!
>>> (or Gybe! or Jibe! or Jybe!--I'm never sure which
>> one it is.)
>>> 
>>> This always works, and will always enable you to
>> come about.  The boat is
>>> strongly built, and this will not hurt either the
>> rigging or the sails.  The
>>> boom will travel a short distance from one side to
>> the other with a loud
>>> "pop".  Release the sheet on the main, and
>> redeploy both the main and the jib
>>> on the correct side.
>>> 
>>> The 175 should never, ever become fouled on the
>> foredeck or on the shrouds.
>>> If it does, chalk it up to operator error.
>>> 
>>> A lot of words, but a simple procedure that always
>> works.
>>> 
>>> Always remember Stan's words:  "This is a
>> sailboat.  Let the wind do the work"
>>> 
>>> Bill Effros
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: Loumoore at aol.com
>>> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2004 8:32 AM
>>> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Re: Rhodes22-list Digest,
>> Vol 425, Issue 1
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hello everyone,
>>> 
>>> I have a quick question.  (I should mention I am
>> only a prospective buyer and
>>> have not yet sailed on a Rhodes.)  Because of the
>> size of the 175 and
>>> substantial overlap, what is the procedure for
>> coming about?  Are special
>>> procedures necessary with the full genoa?  Thanks
>> in advance for you help and
>>> patience.
>>> 
>>> Lou Moore  
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