[Rhodes22-list] hull numbers was Jenny Tracks

Wed Mar 17 16:30:55 EST 2004

Todd,

The HID number on my Maryland Vessel Registration form is the full Hull ID
as listed in a previous message.  On reviewing the Rhodes Owners list
mentioned before, I find Peter Horn with GBX220144A84 and Burt Brody with
GBX220144A82.  If you accept that the Rhodes Owners list is correct, you
have the answer to your question, if it is wrong all bets are off.

As an aside, your example hull numbers are incorrect, the  Rhodes 22 '85
numbering system changed, actually the law mandated  the numbering system
change as of August 1, 1984, so that Jim Connolly's hull number is
GBX22123C585 in order to maintain the required 12 character serial number
(HIN).  The zero after GBX22 was dropped in order to include a 5 after the C
(designating the date of certification as March, 1985).  The law works in
mysterious ways.

Lloyd
(You know my vessel's name by now)

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Todd Tavares" <sprocket80 at mail.com>
To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2004 2:33 PM
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] hull numbers was Jenny Tracks

>    Is the A84 acutally part of the hull ID number as far as registration
purpose goes?  Can there be a  GBX220139A84 and a GBX220139M85? .....the
same number except for the month and year of mfg?  Does the  220139 part of
the number ever repeat or are the hull numbers all sequential?  Maybe this
is a question that only Stan can answer.
>
> Todd
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Lloyd Crowther" <lcrowther at cox.net>
> Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2004 02:01:39 -0500
> To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Jenny Tracks was RE: lee helm
>
> > Wally,
> >
> > According to the FEB., 2004 Rhodes Owners list your Hull Number is
> > GBX220144A84.
> >
> > Owners on the list that submitted their hull numbers as ending in A84
are:
> >
> > Marc Beroz - GBX220139A84
> > Wally Buck - GBX220145A84
> > Lloyd Crowther - GBX220115A84
> > Will Gower - GBX220113A84
> > Bruce Greenwald - GBX220122A84
> > Kip Hansen - GBX220123A84
> > Peter Horn - GBX220144A84
> >
> > In addition, there was one A81 and two A82s.
> >
> > As this wonderful data base grows bigger we must revise a couple of
previous
> > guesses:
> >
> > (a) Maybe Stan certified all his hulls for 1986 as being built in August
as
> > a business practice - there were no other months listed for 81, 82 or
84.
> >
> > (b) Maybe Stan began his hull numbers at 00100 - there were no numbers
> > listed as 000## or 0000#.
> >
> > While this data is way too small to be any more than a joke, such
reality
> > has never deterred me before so I will go bravely on the record as
saying my
> > current conclusion is that Stans production was less than 50 boats a
year,
> > thereby costing Stan most of the fortune that made him the Henry Ford of
the
> > yachting world. Sorry Stan!
> >
> > But to be serious(finally), this exercise started out as a question
about
> > the length of genoa tracks on the '84 model R22 brought on by the more
> > weighty discussions that have dominated the list lately.  Any more
answers
> > concerning that subject would be of interest and I will stop all this
(what
> > was that word of Roger's, oh yeah) BS.
> >
> > Lloyd
> > s/v Uhuru II
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Wally Buck" <tnrhodey at hotmail.com>
> > To: <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2004 3:49 PM
> > Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Jenny Tracks was RE: lee helm
> >
> >
> > > I have an 84 but don't have hull number handy -
> > >
> > > Wally
> > >
> > >
> > > >From: "Lloyd Crowther" <lcrowther at cox.net>
> > > >Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > > >To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > > >Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Jenny Tracks was RE: lee helm
> > > >Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2004 15:33:08 -0500
> > > >
> > > >Ed,
> > > >
> > > >We are beginning to see some sort of
> > > >a trend here (I think).  Our boats are 12 units apart (115A84 and
> > 127A84);
> > > >built, or at least the hull number issued, in the same month and year
> > > >(A84);
> > > >with the same long Genoa track.  However, I don't have any inside
tracks
> > > >(either on my yacht or in figuring out this trend)!
> > > >
> > > > >From this massive sampling of data I do conclude (a) Sam was having
a
> > > >good
> > > >year selling Rhodes22s and (b) each one was at least semi-customized,
> > > >either
> > > >to the individual buyer's wants, or Sam's whims (or his maturing
sailboat
> > > >design).  Maybe some else with the same era hull number will increase
> > this
> > > >already massive data bank by another 50% from which we should be able
to
> > > >deduct hull speeds and owner's complexions.
> > > >
> > > >By the way - Peter, what is your hull number?
> > > >
> > > >Tongue-in-cheek Lloyd
> > > >s/v Uhuru II
> > > >
> > > >----- Original Message -----
> > > >From: "kroposki" <kroposki at innova.net>
> > > >To: "'The Rhodes 22 mail list'" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > > >Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2004 7:18 AM
> > > >Subject: RE: lee helm was Re: [Rhodes22-list] Purchasing new
genny????
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Lloyd,
> > > > >
> > > > > I have 127A84.  I have long Genoa tracks and inside tracks.
> > > > >
> > > > >                                 Ed K
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> > > > > [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Lloyd
> > Crowther
> > > > > Sent: Monday, March 15, 2004 11:40 PM
> > > > > To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> > > > > Subject: Re: lee helm was Re: [Rhodes22-list] Purchasing new
genny????
> > > > >
> > > > > Mary Lou,
> > > > >
> > > > > My hull number is GBX220115A84.  I'd like to hear from somebody
with a
> > > > > hull
> > > > > number near that to see if that particular evolution all had long
> > tracks
> > > > > like mine.
> > > >
> > > >
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