[Rhodes22-list] South America

Steve Alm salm at mn.rr.com
Thu Mar 18 01:12:03 EST 2004


Lloyd,
This sounds fascinating.  Do tell!!!  Send me the story "back channel" if
you wish (I know this ain't got nothin' to do with sailing) but I'll bet
others here would find it interesting.
Slim

On 3/18/04 12:15 AM, "Steve Alm" <salm at mn.rr.com> wrote:

> Wow, Lloyd,
> You were there during the dictatorship?
> Slim
> 
> On 3/17/04 10:37 PM, "Lloyd Crowther" <lcrowther at cox.net> wrote:
> 
>> Steve,
>> 
>> I did the route survey through Matto Grosso to Porto Vello (the port at the
>> headwater for Amazon River Navigation) in 1965, quite a while ago now.  Was
>> the first American in that area in several years.  Of a party of about 75 I
>> was the only non-Brazil guy, and consequently the big squeeze, in that
>> original route investigation.  I'll try to send you a little background at
>> salm at mn.rr.com tomorrow but its beddy-bye for me right now.
>> 
>> Lloyd
>> 
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Steve Alm" <salm at mn.rr.com>
>> To: "Rhodes" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>> Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2004 8:23 PM
>> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] South America
>> 
>> 
>>> Hello Lloyd,
>>> 
>>> In a recent post, you mentioned you did some work in South America--as
>> well
>>> as many far-off places elsewhere--sounds fascinating!  I love collecting
>>> stories and info from people like yourself who have traveled the world,
>> and
>>> I'm especially interested in Brazil.  Mary Ann and I are planning our next
>>> visit to Brazil in June and I was just wondering what comments you might
>>> share of your experience, if any.
>>> 
>>> You didn't mention Brazil specifically, but you said you've worked in the
>>> area of "dirt roads"  and I'm just curious.  We may find ourselves
>> investing
>>> in some business ventures with some of our close Brazilian friends who
>> have
>>> been building a growing import/export business in honey and limestone.  I
>>> know--that's a funny combination, but it is what it is.  When we make our
>>> trip in June, we plan to visit the Brazilian interior and see the
>> limestone
>>> quarry and hopefully the honey facilities as well.  One of the big issues
>>> we're dealing with is the sorry state of the roads.  It's pretty damn hard
>>> to get out there!  Not just the roads, but also the Banditos--but that's
>>> another issue.  It's really the wild, wild west out there.
>>> 
>>> Brazil also has a growing soy bean industry that's fast surpassing the US!
>>> The main hindrance is transportation across the hundreds of miles of dirt
>>> roads.  In the state of Matto Grosso, (central Brazil) they're trucking
>> the
>>> soy beans to an Amazon River port many miles to the north.  From there,
>> once
>>> they hit the water, it's no problem.  They ship out the river, up through
>>> the Panama Canal and across to China--their biggest buyer--ours too, I
>>> think.
>>> 
>>> I was just wondering if you've worked in Brazil and care to share any
>>> thoughts.
>>> 
>>> Muinto Obrigado,
>>> Esteban
>>> 
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