[Rhodes22-list] Bushwhacked reply to Slim (Political)
ed kroposki
ekroposki at charter.net
Sat May 1 09:58:12 EDT 2004
Slim:
You keep believing that they are poor because of the U.S. Embargo,
and other sanctions. Furthermore, you imply that just do away with the
embargo and everything will become all right.
In the economic order of things, socialism is said to be the step up
in the evolution of a political economy. (This is what is taught at the
university level if you take basic economics) The final step according to
economic theorist is control of the economy by all equally. That is no
different groups. All control the economy equally. Historically, before
Ronald Reagan, this was called dictatorship of the proletariat, also known
as communism. Cuba is a communist economy. So why are they poor?
The basis of this economic theory is that everyone puts into the
economy what they are capable of and takes out his equal share (determined
by the state). But, what happens is that certain individuals get just a
little more because of their political influence. I am sure you appreciate
that Castro does not peddle his way to the office on a bicycle. Nor do the
heads of the Chinese government come to work by rickshaw.
Whereas in the corrupt capitalistic system, those who put into the
system can openly keep what they put into the system and allocate that
toward the purchase of a car or pickup truck or whatever them choose. You
appreciate that we do not have a capitalistic system because of the taxes
you pay, right? But, our system allows you to openly keep a few shekels for
you to choose how to allocate. In our system you may even choose to get a
pontoon boat or a sailboat to go with that car. Under real socialism or
communism you, that is Slim, does not get that choice.
People being people, people see what is going on. Under those
advanced economic systems people then put into the system "the least
effort". They do not voluntarily work 12, 16 or 20 hours a day. They do
not work third shift. If they play in a band, it becomes 5 to 9 pm rather
that 9 to 2 AM.
Those advanced economic theories do not allow others to have the
less advanced economies. The theories say that those less advanced systems
must be compelled to change into the advanced socialist systems. The older,
less advanced system called capitalism is not acceptable, and cannot coexist
with the advanced systems.
So, politically, capitalism must be done away with. It must be
changed into a socialist state. That is fundamental to socialist theory.
My teacher on this subject had a Doctor of Economics degree from a Austrian
university. He had to leave his native Austria in 1937/8 and emigrate to
the U.S. because of his religion, much to my benefit. A few of his teachers
were now famous names in the development of economic theory. When he first
came to the U.S., he got a job in The Roosevelt administration as an
economist. I guess, after he retired he went into teaching.
The important lesson here is that the most capable and most
industrious are not willing to put forth their best efforts and get the
states determined equal share. Those that work the hardest, smartest and
most innovatively, want a real share of what they are worth. Without them
getting ahead or the cream of the crop, they simply put in the minimum
amount to get their predetermined share. That is why Cuba is still poor.
That is why many of the smartest get on a flimsy boat and sail to Miami.
That is what freedom is all about.
Ed K
-----Original Message-----
From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
[mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Steve Alm
Sent: Saturday, May 01, 2004 3:40 AM
To: Rhodes
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Bushwhacked
That's right, it's not illegal to go to Cuba, but there's more to it than
how much you spend. You first have to have a Cuban sponsor who, presumably,
can take the heat if you do something wrong. Also there's a mountain of
paperwork to be filed including permission from the State Department and pay
a hefty fee. I assume that permission is a little harder to come by now and
the fee is probably higher. The Govt. has always cracked down of those
trying to bypass all this burocracy but now they've stepped up their efforts
for political reasons.
On the other hand, if you travel to Cuba from somewhere other than the US,
things loosen up considerably--even if you happen to be a US citizen. My
boat partner, Judy, sailed to Cuba on her way back to the States from Spain
via Azores and Barbados--I think. She pretty much just sailed in and hung
out for about a month with no problem. She reports that Cubans have perhaps
the highest literacy rate in the world. Virtually everybody can read. And
about 90% go on to post-secondary school. But it's very poor, and because
of the sanctions you can't even find an aspirin to buy. Steve, you said
Castro has impoverished his citizens. It looks more like WE have
impoverished them.
If you want to get a fairly well-focused view of the pros and cons of life
in Cuba, rent the movie, For Love and Country; The Arturo Sandoval Story.
Sandoval was a Cuban jazz trumpet player who wanted to tour with his hero,
Dizzy Gillespie. Especially if you're a jazz fan, you'll love this true
story, but even if you're not a big jazz-lover, there's a lot to see of
Cuban culture and attitudes. I learned a lot.
Slim
On 4/30/04 9:45 PM, "Michael Meltzer" <mjm at michaelmeltzer.com> wrote:
> it not against the law to go to Cuba. you can even send money to Cuba, the
> "problem" is you are only allowed to spend $150(IIRC) or
> bring back 150$ of goods.
>
> MJM
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Wally Buck" <tnrhodey at hotmail.com>
> To: <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Sent: Friday, April 30, 2004 4:10 PM
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Bushwhacked
>
>
>> I freely admit it is against the law to go to Cuba. Also for the record I
am
>> against slavery. So you think you know what is better for the Cuban
people
>> than they do? They can't feed their belly with your misguided good
>> intentions. The time for the embargo has passed.
>>
>> Wally
>>
>>
>>> From: Steve <rhodes2282 at yahoo.com>
>>> Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>> To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Bushwhacked
>>> Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 11:29:49 -0700 (PDT)
>>>
>>> Wally
>>> Do you know that in some part of Africa that you can
>>> still buy slaves??????? But just because you can;
>>> does that make it right. Of course not.
>>>
>>> Going to Cuba and spending money is against the law.
>>> It prop up Castro & does not benefit the people on the
>>> whole. Yes, the few people that got your friends
>>> money may have benefit in the short haul; BUT not in
>>> the LONG HAUL. Not by any means!!!!!!!!
>>> Steve
>>>
>>>
>>> --- Wally Buck <tnrhodey at hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Steve,
>>>>
>>>> Of course they broke the law; everyone knows that
>>>> Americans can't trade or
>>>> visit with Cuba. Duh!!! The big picture contains
>>>> more than what is good for
>>>> the US, the big picture includes what is good for
>>>> Cuba.
>>>>
>>>> The issue is do the local Cubans benefit or suffer
>>>> from visits from US
>>>> tourists? I know one couple that has been to Cuba
>>>> three times and they spend
>>>> a bunch of cash that goes right into the pockets of
>>>> the locals. The local
>>>> Cubans surely are thinking of their own bests
>>>> interest and they want the
>>>> embargo lifted. I guess you know what is better for
>>>> the Cubans than they do
>>>> huh? I guess part of being a "superpower" is knowing
>>>> what is best for every
>>>> other country in the world?
>>>>
>>>> Thankfully you are wrong! We are free to leave our
>>>> borders with very few
>>>> exceptions. One could even visit the USSR during the
>>>> Cold War. Travel can be
>>>> restricted to protect our National Security and
>>>> travel restrictions have
>>>> been passed by Congress. These restrictions should
>>>> be linked to our National
>>>> Security. At one time the embargo with Cuba was
>>>> most likely a good idea.
>>>> That time has clearly passed.
>>>>
>>>> Wally
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> From: Steve <rhodes2282 at yahoo.com>
>>>>> Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
>>>> <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>>>> To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
>>>> <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Bushwhacked
>>>>> Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 07:05:35 -0700 (PDT)
>>>>>
>>>>> Wally
>>>>> Your friends broke the law. The government does &
>>>>> always have had the right to tell you what
>>>> countries
>>>>> you can visit. BTW: Our country is at war. The
>>>> reason
>>>>> you can't see how it hurts is your thinking of only
>>>>> your own seft interests; not the big picture. Try
>>>> to
>>>>> think of it like this; our great country has
>>>> liberated
>>>>> 2 terrorist country. However, we have a dictator
>>>>> right in our own back yard. This country needs to
>>>> do
>>>>> MORE to correct that & liberate those people also.
>>>>> Remember, it you go there, you are a tourist but
>>>> these
>>>>> supprest people don't have the freedoms that you
>>>> have.
>>>>> The big pictures is to do all we can do so that
>>>> these
>>>>> suppresed Cubans can experience the same freedom
>>>> that
>>>>> we have. That will never happen if Americans prop
>>>> up
>>>>> the Cuban Dictator. The cubans will still suffer &
>>>>> only Castro will benefit from it.
>>>>> Steve
>>>>>
>>>>> --- Wally Buck <tnrhodey at hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> Steve,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The big picture is our governement should not
>>>> have
>>>>>> the right to tell us what
>>>>>> countries we can visit. I can see exceptions in
>>>>>> times of war but this isn't
>>>>>> the case with Cuba. Many think that the people
>>>> of
>>>>>> Cuba would be better off
>>>>>> if we eased some of the restrictions. I can't
>>>> see
>>>>>> how it would hurt. I
>>>>>> myself have a few friends that have traveled to
>>>> Cuba
>>>>>> on scuba/sailing trips.
>>>>>> It is an amazing country and the locals were
>>>> quite
>>>>>> eager to do business. Our
>>>>>> trade embargos hurt the common man in Cuba much
>>>> more
>>>>>> than it does Castro.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Wally
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> From: Steve <rhodes2282 at yahoo.com>
>>>>>>> Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
>>>>>> <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>>>>>> To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
>>>>>> <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Bushwhacked
>>>>>>> Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 05:44:17 -0700 (PDT)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Todd
>>>>>>> Your not seeing the big picture. Your putting
>>>> your
>>>>>>> own self interest before the country. Yes,
>>>>>> sometime
>>>>>>> this country has to tolerate these situation
>>>> but
>>>>>> there
>>>>>>> is always a good reason. I have said that in a
>>>>>>> preivous e-mail. Another previous quote, "But
>>>> on
>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> whole or as the basic rule, we should not
>>>> support
>>>>>>> them". There is simple no reason for Americans
>>>> to
>>>>>> be
>>>>>>> going to Cuba or to be planning to go to Cuba.
>>>>>> These
>>>>>>> type of situation take the focus of our Coast
>>>> Guard
>>>>>>> off of it real duty to chase down spoiled
>>>>>> Americans.
>>>>>>> Here is a quote for you, "Ask not what your
>>>> country
>>>>>>> can do for you but what you can do for your
>>>>>> country".
>>>>>>> In this situation, a good thing you can do for
>>>> your
>>>>>>> country is not initiate a situation that our
>>>> Coast
>>>>>>> Guard would have to intervien in such as trying
>>>> or
>>>>>>> planing on going to Cuba. There is just no
>>>> point
>>>>>> in
>>>>>>> it when our country is at war and our Coast
>>>> Guard
>>>>>> has
>>>>>>> other priorities.
>>>>>>> Steve
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --- Todd Tavares <sprocket80 at mail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Steve,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> But if Castro had wealth or oil to
>>>> spread
>>>>>> around
>>>>>>>> here in the U.S. like say....the Royal
>>>> family in
>>>>>>>> Saudi Arabia... then he would also be
>>>> welcomed
>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>> open arms?? Give me a freaking break. The
>>>>>> United
>>>>>>>> States supports dictators when it benefits
>>>> the
>>>>>>>> United States. Castro is too proud and
>>>> defiant
>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>> bend over and kiss America's ass. Bush is
>>>> just
>>>>>>>> pulling election year politics (which he
>>>> learned
>>>>>>>> from watching Clinton and his spindoctors do
>>>> for
>>>>>>>> years)under the guise of Homeland security.
>>>> He
>>>>>>>> needs as many votes in Florida as he can
>>>> get.
>>>>>> Jeb
>>>>>>>> can't help him this go'round.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Castro is not interested in the overthrow
>>>> of
>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> US government or conducting or for that
>>>> matter,
>>>>>> even
>>>>>>>> supporting terrorism against us. Our beef
>>>> with
>>>>>>>> Castro has more to do with human rights
>>>> abuses
>>>>>> than
>>>>>>>> anything else. If Cuba had any natural
>>>> resources
>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>> exploit, or anything of value to offer
>>>> besides
>>>>>>>> cigars or perhaps, cheap labor, U.S. big
>>>>>> business
>>>>>>>> would be down there setting shop
>>>>>>>> tomorrow...socialist republic or not. You
>>>> can
>>>>>> bet
>>>>>>>> your boy Bush would see to that.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Todd
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>> From: Steve <rhodes2282 at yahoo.com>
>>>>>>>> Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 06:19:15 -0700 (PDT)
>>>>>>>> To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
>>>>>>>> <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Bushwhacked
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Slim
>>>>>>>>> A country as great as our does not need to
>>>> be
>>>>>>>>> supporting Dictators. Especialy Not with
>>>> our
>>>>>>>> money.
>>>>>>>>> Certain situations require this country to
>>>>>>>> tolerate
>>>>>>>>> certain things from some contries. But on
>>>> the
>>>>>>>> whole or
>>>>>>>>> as the basic rule, we should not support
>>>> them.
>>>>>> The
>>>>>>>>> cubans are ruled by a dictator and until
>>>> that
>>>>>>>> changes;
>>>>>>>>> should be cut off from the free world.
>>>>>>>>> Steve
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --- Steve Alm <salm at mn.rr.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Steve,
>>>>>>>>>> Hello? We're not at war with Cuba.
>>>> Bush is
>>>>>> now
>>>>>>>>>> calling Cuba a terrorist
>>>>>>>>>> state. Baloney! Have you ever heard of
>>>> a
>>>>>> Cuban
>>>>>>>>>> terrorist? The Bay of Pigs
>>>>>>>>>> was 42 years ago and the Cold War is
>>>> over.
>>>>>>>> Who's
>>>>>>>>>> afraid of Castro at this
>>>>>>>>>> point? He's no threat, he has no
>>>> powerful
>>>>>>>> allies
>>>>>>>>>> and he has no money.
>>>>>>>>>> What's he gonna do? Load up a bunch of
>>>> his
>>>>>> '53
>>>>>>>>>> Chevys and invade Key West?
>>>>>>>>>> Conga drums don't make very good
>>>> cannons.
>>>>>> This
>>>>>>>> new
>>>>>>>>>> law is a heavy-handed,
>>>>>>>>>> jack-booted piece of fascist politicking
>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>> strips
>>>>>>>>>> Americans of their
>>>>>>>>>> civil rights. And he's just doing it
>>>> for
>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> damn
>>>>>>>>>> votes of those who came
>>>>>>>>>> to this country to escape that very
>>>> thing.
>>>>>>>>>> Slim
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 4/28/04 9:23 AM, "Steve"
>>>>>>>> <rhodes2282 at yahoo.com>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Slim
>>>>>>>>>>> Something that needs to be factor in
>>>> is
>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>> our
>>>>>>>>>> Coast
>>>>>>>>>>> Guard should not have to be running
>>>>>> Americans
>>>>>>>> down
>>>>>>>>>>> after they go to Cuba. The Coast
>>>> Guard
>>>>>> needs
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>>>> guarding our US coasts. This law
>>>> should
>>>>>> help
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> Coast Guard by getting people that are
>>>>>> willing
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>> break existing laws regarding Cuba by
>>>>>> allowing
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> Coast Guard to go ahead & throw them
>>>> in
>>>>>> jail
>>>>>>>>>> without
>>>>>>>>>>> having to chase them down after they
>>>> break
>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> law.
>>>>>>>>>>> Its one of these things that citizen
>>>> have
>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>> endure
>>>>>>>>>>> when our country is at WAR.
>>>>>>>>>>> Steve
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> --- Steve Alm <salm at mn.rr.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Steve,
>>>>>>>>>>>> You misunderstood. I'm not saying I
>>>>>> support
>>>>>>>>>> Castro.
>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm saying Bush is a
>>>>>>>>>>>> fascist for passing this law. You
>>>> don't
>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>>>>> tried or found guilty of
>>>>>>>>>>>> anything or even probable cause
>>>>>> needed--just
>>>>>>>>>>>> suspected of going to Cuba--to
>>>>>>>>>>>> lose your boat. Whatever happened to
>>>>>>>> innocent
>>>>>>>>>> until
>>>>>>>>>>>> proven guilty? Yes, of
>>>>>>>>>>>> course he's trying to court the
>>>>>> anti-Castro
>>>>>>>>>>>> Cuban-Americans that live in
>>>>>>>>>>>> Florida, but that doesn't give him
>>>> the
>>>>>> right
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>> trash the Constitution!!!
>>>>>>>>>>>> If I were to be overheard just
>>>> talking
>>>>>> about
>>>>>>>> my
>>>>>>>>>> love
>>>>>>>>>>>> of cigars and Salsa
>>>>>>>>>>>> dancing--BAM!--the Bush Nazis could
>>>>>>>> commandeer my
>>>>>>>>>>>> beloved Fandango for no
>>>>>>>>>>>> reason at all, and you seem to think
>>>>>> that's
>>>>>>>> OK?
>>>>>>>>>>>> Wake up and smell the storm
>>>>>>>>>>>> troopers!!!!!
>>>>>>>>>>>> Slim
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 4/27/04 7:38 AM, "Steve"
>>>>>>>>>> <rhodes2282 at yahoo.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Slim
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I read that article. Why would you
>>>> want
>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>> go
>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>> Cuba
>>>>>>>>>>>>> and support a Dictator??????????????
>>>>>>>> Spending
>>>>>>>>>>>> money
>>>>>>>>>>>>> there has always been Illegal. All
>>>> Bush
>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>> doing
>>>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>>>> putting a stop to people going
>>>> there.
>>>>>> If
>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>>>>>>>> planning on going there, spending
>>>> money
>>>>>>>> there,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> basically showing that you support a
>>>>>>>> dictator
>>>>>>>>>> who
>>>>>>>>>>>> has
>>>>>>>>>>>>> kept his country in poverty; you
>>>> have
>>>>>>>> nothing to
>>>>>>>>>>>> worry
>>>>>>>>>>>>> about!!!!!!!!!!!!!! It come down to
>>>> who
>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>>>>> support -
>>>>>>>>>>>>> America & Freedom ----- or Dictators
>>>> &
>>>>>>>>>>>> suppression!
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Steve
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> --- Steve Alm <salm at mn.rr.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The May issue of Cruising World
>>>> reports
>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>> law
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> passed by George W.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Pinhead whereas the govt. can
>>>> board,
>>>>>>>> inspect,
>>>>>>>>>>>> search
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and/or commandeer ANY
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> boat at ANY time in American waters
>>>> if
>>>>>> they
>>>>>>>>>>>> merely
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> suspect that boat might
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be going to or from Cuba, which is
>>>> now
>>>>>>>> defined
>>>>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> terrorist state. It
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> doesn't sound like they need any
>>>> proof
>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>>>>>> probably
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cause. The way I read
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it, the govt. has been given Carte
>>>>>> Blanche
>>>>>>>> over
>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> above any
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> right-to-privacy issues. If anyone
>>>> has
>>>>>> any
>>>>>>>>>> doubt
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that this administration
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> has trampled the Constitution and
>>>>>> become a
>>>>>>>>>>>> Fascist
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> regime, one need look no
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> further than this!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Slim
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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