pinning turnbuckles Re: [Rhodes22-list] Proud New Rhodes 22 Owners

[Mary Lou Troy]

Hmmm..... I'd like to hear some more discussion on this. Having had a 
shroud come unfastened near the end of a long sail in bumpy conditions the 
first year we had Fretless (yeah we're slackers and didn't have enough 
tension in the rig), we have always pinned our turnbuckles since. When we 
tighten the turnbuckles we are very careful to hold the stay with a pair of 
pliers so the stay itself doesn't turn. I think I'd rather be extra careful 
not to induce any twist and then pin the turnbuckles. They are, after all, 
TURNbuckles and are meant to turn. Anyone else have opinions on this? What 
are the locknuts mentioned below?

By the way we had a two hour sail on Saturday - nice winds, not too cold, 
managed to exit the slip and return without breaking anything, even managed 
to have all the lines run correctly and working smoothly - it was great to 
be back on the water!

Mary Lou
1991 R22 Fretless
Swan Creek , MD / Ft. Washington, PA




At 11:14 PM 5/3/2004 -0400, you wrote:
>none of the above, you will end up breaking the wire, the reason the turn 
>buckles come undone is because you transferred "twits" to
>the wire, unless it come out and fast the wire will break under load, it 
>is also a very common mistake with high odds you made it.
>if the trun bucks pop, just make sure to put the back on without letting 
>the wire turn, that also goes for all tighting.
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>MJM
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>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Sheldon Green" <sheldongreen at comcast.net>
>To: <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>Sent: Monday, May 03, 2004 10:53 PM
>Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Proud New Rhodes 22 Owners
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>Hello to the Rhodes 22 Board....
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>We are novice sailors and would like to introduce ourselves to the board as
>Elton has just delivered our refurbished Rhodes 22.  Accolades to Stan for a
>really great design in a Sailboat!
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>We will be sailing out of Mariner's Marina in Barnegat, NJ.  The Marina has
>more 90% Sailboats.
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>We spent our first weekend on the boat, however we were unable to take her
>for our maiden voyage as the winds were in excess of 20 knots.  This of
>course gave us time to rig the boat and explore it various "nooks and
>crannies". Jay Friedland, of L.B.I., was gracious enough to help Elton and
>us to launch and rig the boat.
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>While rigging the boat, Jay showed us how to secure the turnbuckles from
>loosening after applying the appropriate tension to the Shrouds /Stays.
>While talking to one of the other sailors in the Marina about the different
>ways to secure the turnbuckles, they suggested that we use "locking nuts"
>(Check Nut Locking) vs. "ring pins" or "cotter pins".  They explained that
>the "locking nuts" were easier to manage in the long run.  So.... I was
>wondering if anyone has used this approach, and if so, what size nuts are
>needed for job (#10,1/4", 5/16", or 3/8")?
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