[Rhodes22-list] Jesusland.

[stan]

I get it.  You like your definition of marriage so much the same couples 
keep doing it over and over again - but with different partners - I guess 
the term marriage makes it all legal, moral and family value.

Now you tell me.  I have been missing all that fun.

stan/EC

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Steve" <rhodes2282 at yahoo.com>
To: "stan" <stan at rhodes22.com>; "The Rhodes 22 mail list" 
<rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Sent: Monday, November 22, 2004 11:18 AM
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Jesusland.


> Marrage record, Stan.  Lets see, the liberal want to
> let gays get married.  That not a marrage.  And you
> can't redefined marrage to suit your own needs.
> Marrage is between a Man & a Women.  What's next for
> the liberals - marrage between a Man or Women and an
> animal ?????????  Surely the liberals don't want to
> descrimiate against some Man & his dog:-)
>
> Thank God we don't allow that in the south!!!!!!!!
> Steve
>
>
> --- stan <stan at rhodes22.com> wrote:
>
>> give that man a free Rhodes
>>
>> Actually the records show that the bleeding heart
>> liberals have a marriage
>> record far superior to the conservative bible belt
>> crowd.   We have been
>> married well over 50 years - she to two men and me
>> to three ladies.  Just
>> kidding, only to each other - something I have found
>> extremely rare in the
>> religious right part of the country where the rule
>> for that family value is
>> more like musical chairs.
>>
>> stan/EC
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Stephen Staum" <staum at earthlink.net>
>> To: "Hank" <hnw555 at gmail.com>; "The Rhodes 22 mail
>> list"
>> <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>> Sent: Monday, November 22, 2004 6:55 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Jesusland.
>>
>>
>> >I have to weigh in with Robert on this one.  I
>> cannot stand all the "family
>> > values" crap dispursed by the Republicans.  It is
>> as if Democrats,
>> > Independants and (God forbid we mention) Liberals
>> did not care about their
>> > families.
>> >
>> > Religion (including prayer in school) has no place
>> in government.  SS
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: "Hank" <hnw555 at gmail.com>
>> > To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list"
>> <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>> > Sent: Monday, November 22, 2004 5:53 AM
>> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Jesusland.
>> >
>> >
>> >> I have to disagree on your definition of morals
>> and ethics.  In most,
>> >> if not all, dictionaries, morals and ethics are
>> synonymous terms and
>> >> are often used to define one another.  Nether one
>> implies a Deity.
>> >> They both are based upon acting out of a sense of
>> right or wrong, good
>> >> or evil.
>> >>
>> >> Hank
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Sun, 21 Nov 2004 18:13:36 -0500, Robert
>> Skinner
>> >> <robert at squirrelhaven.com> wrote:
>> >> > Rummy -
>> >> >
>> >> > Couldn't agree more about the problems that
>> come
>> >> > up when we combine religion with politics.
>> >> >
>> >> > Part of the background of our current "family
>> values"
>> >> > vs. secular considerations may come from our
>> failure
>> >> > to distinguish between moral issues and ethical
>> ones.
>> >> >
>> >> > Morals are a product of a person's dialogue
>> with his
>> >> > deity of choice - and there is more than one
>> such
>> >> > acknowledged in this country.
>> >> >
>> >> > Ethics are shared in a society without regard
>> to
>> >> > religion - or the society falls apart.  When
>> the
>> >> > society decides to enforce morals, it becomes a
>> >> > theocracy, and people's rights are submerged in
>> the
>> >> > regulations laid down by the priest class,
>> specially
>> >> > when it is indistinguishable from the ruling
>> class.
>> >> >
>> >> > I believe that the "family values" issues
>> raised in
>> >> > the last election are totally irrelevant to our
>> >> > government, and were used in the most
>> unscrupulous
>> >> > way to obscure the real issues confronting our
>> >> > government.
>> >> >
>> >> > /Robert Skinner
>> >> > -----------------------------------------------
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > R22RumRunner at aol.com wrote:
>> >> > >
>> >> > > In a message dated 11/21/2004 2:06:47 PM
>> Eastern Standard Time,
>> >> > > flybrad at yahoo.com writes:
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >
>>
> http://realclearpolitics.com/Presidential_04/2004_County_Results_Final.html
>> >> > > I get it now, those people that didn't vote
>> for Bush, according to
>> >> > > the
>> > red
>> >> > > and blue map, are less religious than those
>> that did.
>> >> > > This country is in a sad state of affairs.
>> What happens to the people
>> > that
>> >> > > are either in the red or blue, voted for
>> their candidate, but aren't
>> > religious?
>> >> > >  Where do we fit in? Personally, I don't
>> think religion has any place
>> > in
>> >> > > politics. Something about the separation of
>> church and state. Our
>> > founding
>> >> > > father's were very smart in writing this into
>> our constitution.
>> > Putting the two
>> >> > > together only muddies the waters even more
>> than they already are.
>> > Religion or
>> >> > > actions taken in the name of religion have
>> done more harm to the
>> > planet than
>> >> > > any  other "just" cause. Let the priests,
>> rabbi's, mullah's(sp) and
>> > ministers
>> >> > > tend their flocks, but leave the rest of us
>> alone.
>> >> > >
>> >> > > Rummy
>> >> >
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