[Rhodes22-list] 1976 Rhodes

Wed Nov 24 08:28:46 EST 2004

Hank,

I just thought of something else you should take a good hard look at before
you get too deeply into your restoration project.  There is no mast
compression post in your cabin.  If the mast was ever stepped without the
mast compression post in place; then, you may have major structural damage
around the mast step & inside the composite laminate structure of the cabin
roof.  Have an assistant step on the mast step while you take a close look
at the cabin liner.  If you see minute cracks in the cabin liner radiating
away from the spot where the mast compression post was located; then, this
is a VERY bad sign.  Also, does your cabin roof feel "punky" in the region
around the mast step.  If so, this is also a bad sign.  These symptoms could
be signs of a major hidden structural problem, hard to repair, & you should
seek professional help.  If it's real bad; then, this problem may be a
project killer all by itself!

Roger Pihlaja
S/V Dynamic Equilibrium

----- Original Message -----
From: "Roger Pihlaja" <cen09402 at centurytel.net>
To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2004 7:36 AM
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] 1976 Rhodes

> Hank,
>
> Well, I took a look at your photos.  It's definitely a Rhodes 22 hull.  It
> looks like there's a lot of boat left to work with; but, you certainly
have
> your work cut out for you!  It looks like you have a pretty nice tandem
axle
> galvanized trailer too.  With the boat in the condition it's in, I hope
you
> got a good deal on the purchase price.  How did the cabin interior get
> ripped out?
>
> Since you are starting pretty much from scratch on the interior, you have
> some options for materials of construction (MOC) that did not exist in
1976.
> Take a look in the 2004 West Marine Master Catalog on page 441.  Note the
> TACO marine lumber plastic building material and TACO Lite structural foam
> sheets.  These building materials are made from polyethylene and high
> density polyethylene foam.  They can be cut, fastened, & sanded like wood;
> but, will be completely impervious to moisture, rot, and everything else
in
> the marine environment.  Another similar product is sold under the
tradename
> of Starboard.  Look in the 2004 Defender Marine Buyer's Guide on page 120
to
> see this MOC.  Use only 316 SS or 18/8 SS fasteners.
>
> Most of the standard interior was originally fabricated from marine grade
> plywood with a teak veneer.  If I were rebuilding my interior with wood, I
> would go to the extra step of sealing any wood with epoxy or a good
> polyurethane marine varnish, especially any end grain.
>
> Building the interior on a boat involves some of the most demanding
> cabinetry skills.  You are going to find there isn't a truly straight
line,
> right angle, or flat surface practically anywhere!  Everything is all
angles
> & curves and must be pretty much custom fit.  I hope your woodworking
skills
> are good and you have lots of patience.
>
> Dynamic Equilibrium is a 1976 Rhodes 22.  I have a digital camera and I've
> owned the boat since 1987.  I'm pretty familier with the way the boat is
put
> together.  If you have some specific questions regarding some detail of
how
> the boat was originally put together; then, ask away & I'll try to help
you.
> If I can get to some specific feature without massively dismantling my
boat,
> I will be glad to take a digital picture for you.
>
> Keep in mind that GBI has a philosphy of continuous improvement.  There
have
> been many improvements made to the cabin and sailing systems on the boat
> since 1976.  Most of these improvements can be retrofit to earlier boats.
> For example, 1976 Rhodes 22's came equipped with a cable-style traveller
> attached to the transom.  It was bad.  The boats have been equipped with a
> newer bar-style traveller, which is suspended between the double
backstays,
> for some time now.  This is a much better system; but, you will have to
> replace your double backstays in order to upgrade.  This is just one
example
> of literally dozens of small changes and upgrades made to the boat over
the
> years.  I recommend you look at the pictures on the photo web site and
> various discussion topics on the FAQ web site.
>
> http://www.rhodes22.org/rhodes/
>
> http://www.geocities.com/blew_skies/topics.html
>
> In addition, Stan at GBI will be able to give you lots of advice regarding
> what's possible.  Remember, if you see something you like in the photos,
the
> chances are that Stan or someone on the list can help you to make it a
> reality on your boat.
>
> With the boat in the condition it's in, it's difficult to know what to
tell
> you to do 1st regarding the restoration.  If it were my boat, I'd get the
> hull surveyed for moisture content & I'd do a thorough inspection for
> osmotic blisters.  The damage to the topsides & rub rail would make me
> concerned about possible water infiltration into the plywood core in the
> deck.  If you find a significant amount of this sort of structural damage;
> then, you may want to rethink whether this project is worth doing.  If the
> boat is structurally in good shape; then the rest of the restoration just
> requires time, patience, and money.
>
> Good luck!
>
> Roger Pihlaja
> S/V Dynamic Equilibrium
>
> >-----Original Message-----
> > From: hank reiling <gnilier at msn.com>
> > To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Date: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 1:44 PM
> > Subject: [Rhodes22-list] 1976 Rhodes
> >
> >
> > Thanks for your responses, I have had it her for a couple of weeks and
> have
> > been checking out the websites, I have attached a link to pictures I
have
> > taken, I have my work cut out for me.  I have checked out the basic
layout
> > at General Boats, I do not even have the floor inside the cabin.  Pretty
> > much I have my choice of what I want the inside to look like. My main
> > problem is I need to know basically how it goes together, is the floor
> > plywood, planks etc. I bought it the same weekend as the Boat show in St
> > Pete.  I would have loved to check out the Rhodes there.
> >
> >
>
http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/gniliernoj/my_photos<http://pg.photos.yahoocom
> > /ph/gniliernoj/my_photos>
> >
> > Thanks
> >
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