[Rhodes22-list] Slim's issues
Bob Weber
ruba1811 at hotmail.com
Tue Oct 5 15:01:48 EDT 2004
Brad, your op piece rapped up my simple (probably myopic) political stance.
In my mind free enterprise is the ULTIMATE form of democracy. I vote for
things everyday when I buy/don't buy them. If a product, service, or
organization does not fit my needs (or offends my personal beliefs) I "vote"
for the competitor. If it is a big enough problem with the general public
it either gets fixed by the "incumbent" or another "candidate". Currently I
am voting against Sam Walton every chance I get, it is a personal thing. I
am vehemently opposed to anyone taking away my right to freely choose
something as important as education. So I guess I dont need to state my
views about giving my money to someone who will make my healthcare decisions
for me. Well the flushness my face reminds me why I stay out of such
debates. You will have to continue to carry the torch; I am just a
simpleton who likes to make his own decisions and mistakes.
GO Cards.
Bob
>From: brad haslett <flybrad at yahoo.com>
>Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Slim's issues
>Date: Tue, 5 Oct 2004 10:37:46 -0700 (PDT)
>
>Bob,
>
>My hometown, Brownstown, is about 30 miles northeast
>of your boat. When I started college at
>SIU-Carbondale I was worried about competing with all
>the kids from the Chicago area suburbs. It didn't take
>long to figure that the public education recieved in
>most of the little "hick" towns in Southern Illinois
>is pretty good. They run much the same way the
>private schools do. You co-operate and graduate and
>the last thing you want is for word of anything
>negative to get back to your parents.
>
>The school system here in Memphis is completely
>dysfunctional. The county school system is much
>better, so what do the local political types want to
>do?, merge them and make the whole thing better! Yeah
>right! One of the local newspaper columnists torqued
>me off so badly I responded with a letter to the
>editor a couple of months ago and it got published.
>Several friends of mine said they wrote too but didn't
>get published. I explained that my article made it to
>the paper because I didn't start drinking until I was
>finished and kept editing to sneak it under the
>"racial radar" that is always on high at the
>Commercial Appeal. The link to it is dead so here it
>is.
>
>Brad
>
>___________________________________________________
>
>
> Once again Wendi Thomas has sought and found racism
>from her well- balanced perspective (she has a chip on
>both shoulders). Ms. Thomas finds racism in the
>Germantown decision to leave the county library
>system. Opposing a Memphis City payroll tax is
>racist, as well as moving to a suburb of Shelby
>County, or, God forbid, a neighboring county,
>according to Ms. Thomas. (Black folks tiring of racist
>lingo, July 27 2004 Commercial Appeal)
>
>She is right about one thing; it is about color.
>GREEN! If throwing more money at a broken education
>system fixed the problems, the Washington DC district
>schools would be leading the nation. If people choose
>to move outside the city of Memphis where taxes are
>lower and services are better, that makes good common
>sense. A lot of people who value their hard-earned
>wages feel that way, and they come in all colors,
>races, and ethnic backgrounds.
>
>Wendi, its not all black and white. Sometimes its
>just GREEN.
>
>Brad Haslett, Collierville, TN
>
>--- Bob Weber <ruba1811 at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Brad, after 16 years of catholic education, 8 with
> > the Jesuits, I can
> > confirm your story and agree whole heartly. I have
> > already started saving
> > for little Miss Carolines highschool and dropping
> > money in the basket for
> > her grade school. I will still pay my taxes and
> > send someone elses kid to
> > public school even if we do have to pay 1/2 of the
> > kids' cab fare to get
> > from the inner city to the better funded county
> > schools. This is a hot
> > issue this election season in my town. There is so
> > much waste and
> > corruption. The people who can fix it cannot do
> > anything that is required
> > because commonsense and fiscal responsibility will
> > never get someone
> > elected. That is the extent of my political
> > diatribe. If my daughter needs
> > a soap bar put in her mouth (I will never forget my
> > darn experience of it)
> > then that is what they should do. Education is the
> > foundation of my
> > daughter's experience of her life, there is no room
> > for "touchy-feely /
> > please everone" policies while providing the
> > information to enter a world
> > which is otherwise. Enough of that - GO CARDS. We
> > will see the twins in a
> > couple weeks.
> >
> > Bob Weber
> >
> > >From: brad haslett <flybrad at yahoo.com>
> > >Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> > <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > >To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> > <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > >Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Slim's issues
> > >Date: Tue, 5 Oct 2004 09:09:16 -0700 (PDT)
> > >
> > >To All,
> > >
> > >This discussion about education reminds me of a
> > >lecture I listened to a few years ago. Both of my
> > >boys attended all-boys Catholic high schools. My
> > >oldest, Spencer, attended Little Rock Boys Catholic
> > >High which was run by Father Tribou for over forty
> > >years. The non-Catholic parents (his mother and I
> > for
> > >example) had to attend a special orientation.
> > Father
> > >Tribou's lecture to the parents was so memorable I
> > can
> > >almost quote it verbatum. It went something like
> > >this:
> > >
> > >"Welcome. Most of you are familiar with our school
> > or
> > >you wouldn't be sending your child here but in case
> > >you're not, here's how we work. This is a meat and
> > >potatoes school - no spices, no dessert, nothing
> > >fancy. Four years of science, english, and math -
> > >meat and potatoes. Our textbooks are old, when
> > they
> > >have completely fallen apart we'll change them.
> > It's
> > >been our experience that the boys have enough
> > trouble
> > >learning the basics without worrying about what
> > >changed in the last five years. We don't have
> > metal
> > >detectors like some of the public schools. If guns
> > >and knives became a problem, metal detectors would
> > be
> > >of no value anyway because all the lead in your
> > boy's
> > >ass would constantly set them off anyway. Now I'm
> > >sure some of you have boys with learning
> > disabilities.
> > > Frankly we never heard of ADD and some of these
> > other
> > >"challenges" until recently and haven't done
> > anything
> > >to address these issues. If your boy has a
> > handicap,
> > >chances are he'll have to deal with it for life so
> > >he'll just have to learn to overcome it here.
> > Study
> > >harder or accept lower grades, we have no intention
> > in
> > >changing our methods that have worked so well for
> > us
> > >for over a hundred years. I'm sure a lot of you
> > have
> > >kept up with all the new science and theories
> > >associated with education, we haven't. If you
> > insist
> > >on sharing them with us, Father David will refund
> > your
> > >money as you leave. ... One last thing, no doubt
> > your
> > >son will come home and say things about his
> > teachers.
> > >Ignore them and we'll ignore all the things your
> > son
> > >tells us about you."
> > >
> > >Father Tribou had cancer his last several years but
> > >wanted to live long enough to see the Class of
> > 2000,
> > >Spencer's class, graduate. He died in 2001. The
> > >public school system in most parts of the country
> > >could use some of his wisdom.
> > >
> > >Brad Haslett
> > >"CoraShen"
> > >
> > >
> > >--- R22RumRunner at aol.com wrote:
> > >
> > > > Slim,
> > > > You have to understand where Ed is coming from.
> > In
> > > > SC, the SAT test scores
> > > > are the worst in the nation and have been for
> > ever.
> > > > 1/2 of all 9th grade
> > > > students today, will not graduate from high
> > school.
> > > > Now, the state is throwing
> > > > millions of dollars into constructing new
> > schools
> > > > and getting rid of the
> > > > portable classrooms. They are also at the same
> > time
> > > > making the requirements tougher
> > > > on the teachers. Property taxes have gone up
> > some
> > > > since I moved here, but
> > > > they are still ridiculously low compared to
> > taxes in
> > > > Wisconsin. About 1/5th of
> > > > what I would pay in WS for the same house.
> > > > Since all this money has been thrown at
> > education
> > > > (the past four years)
> > > > everybody is expecting the test scores to come
> > up
> > > > proportionally with the level
> > > > of spending. I'm afraid it's going to take a few
> > > > generations to do that.
> > > >
> > > > Rummy
> > > >
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