[Rhodes22-list] Some Public School Programs Work Pretty Well

[brad haslett]

Bill,

This will be quick because its time to depart.  You
are wrong, dead wrong.  I'll give you one quick
example, in Shelby County, TN the county residents
(me) have to give 3 tax dollars to the city schools
for every 1 dollar that the county schools get to
keep. The money per pupil doesn't quite work out to
3/1 for the black city vs. the white county but its
close.  Money hasn't solved the Memphis city school
problems.  Update your textbook definition of racist. 
I won't take your assessment as a personal attack on
me, but I do get a bit weary of being targeted as one
by the local press and government. Our former
Congressman called us county residents "blue eyed
devils".  If I made a statement like that my house
would be riddled with bullets.  Happens here, trust
me.

Brad
--- Bill Effros <bill at effros.com> wrote:

> Actually, it is a textbook racist view, and has
> nothing to do with Political Correctness.  When the
> black school is the functioning school, white
> parents are only too willing to merge it with their
> own non-functioning schools.  White parents
> willingly bus their children to better schools in
> distant neighborhoods, or pull them out of
> neighborhood schools altogether and enroll them in
> distant private schools.
> 
> When the black slaves were freed, whites felt no
> obligation to provide schools for them.  It was
> illegal to teach slaves to read, so there was no
> substantial pool of black teachers.  Public schools
> were not widely available to black students until
> the 1920s and 1930s.  Blacks were not allowed to
> merge into white schools, no matter where they
> lived.  "Separate but equal" schools were provided
> instead.  It wasn't until 1954 that the Supreme
> Court said that keeping blacks Separate would never
> allow them to become Equal.
> 
> That is as true today as it was then.  We don't
> provide the same resources in black schools as we do
> in white schools.  That is as true here, in
> Greenwich, Connecticut as it is in the deep South.
> 
> It is racism pure and simple, no matter what you
> choose to call it.
> 
> Bill Effros
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> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: brad haslett 
> To: The Rhodes 22 mail list 
> Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2004 1:02 PM
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Some Public School
> Programs Work Pretty Well
> 
> 
> Todd,
> 
> You may recall a controversial book that was
> published
> in 1994 titled "The Bell Curve: Intelligence and
> Class
> Stucture in American Life" by Herrnstein and Murray.
> Herrnstein had the good sense to die before
> publication which left Charles Murray alone to
> defend
> chapter 13.  His studies showed that Asian-Americans
> tested slightly higher in IQ than other groups but
> this alone wouldn't account for their superior
> academic performance.  He was crucified by the PC
> police.  
> 
> Students attempt to meet the standards that are set
> for them at home.  If those standards or even a
> functioning home is missing, performance will
> suffer. 
> It is beyond the function of the education system to
> fix those problems.
> 
> Some public schools work because the communities
> where
> they are located work.  Merging functioning schools
> with non-functioning ones generally drag both down. 
> This is not a racist view, this is what we used to
> call common sense before the cottage industry of
> political correctness was developed.
> 
> Brad Haslett
> "CoraShen"
> 
> 
> --- Todd Tavares <sprocket80 at mail.com> wrote:
> 
> > 
> >    Roger,
> > 
> >        We HAD something like that here in
> Maryland,
> > called the MSPAP.  I
> >    was initally to used to gage how well the
> schools
> > were teaching the
> >    pupils.  The schools had to pass and each year
> > show an improvement or
> >    face take-over by the state BOE.
> > 
> >        We unfortunately did not reap such positive
> > results.  Instead, the
> >    results were twisted and used by a certain
> > racially based "lobbyist"
> >    group (no names here), to show that minority
> > children did universally
> >    worse than their white counterparts.  The test
> > was supposed to be
> >    blind and the children's sex, ethnic and
> economic
> > information was
> >    never to be recorded...but it was.
> > 
> >        A committee was formed by the state Board
> of
> > Ed to find out why
> >    the minority children....all except a group
> named
> > the "Asian/Pacific
> >    Islander Group"...were scoring poorly.   The
> > committee spent two years
> >    and generated a 208 page report.  I studied the
> > report in painstaking
> >    detail.  The conclusion was 11 reasons grouped
> > into three main root
> >    causes.  Poverty, Lack of parental involvement,
> > and low self esteem.
> >    When explaining why the Asian/Pacific Islander
> > Group children (approx
> >    2%) scored consistently highest in all grades
> and
> > genders, the
> >    committee came up  with a statement..to
> > paraphrase it...It is widely
> >    known that Asian students are generally the
> > smarter.
> > 
> >        Poverty meant that the children were under
> > nourished, could not
> >    buy paper and pencils, etc.  Lack of parental
> > involvement is
> >    self-explanatory.  Low self esteem was sort of
> a
> > catch-all for every
> >    other excuse.  Low self esteem came from low
> self
> > worth in males
> >    because of the absence of a male role model in
> > the home setting;
> >    and the instructional material did not reflect
> > enough people of color
> >    or their heritage.  That is about the only
> point
> > I could have agreed
> >    with. etc, etc, etc.
> > 
> >        The state budgeted monies and came up with
> > very loose guidelines
> >    for the counties to follow as far as what types
> > of programs and
> >    activities to provide to the minoritiy
> students. 
> > This money was to
> >    specifically help only minority students who
> were
> > scoring poorly.  The
> >    counties in turn passed the money out to the
> > schools and left it up to
> >    individual principals to decide how to use it.
> > (within the vague
> >    guidelines mandated by the state BOE)  There
> was
> > no accountability at
> >    all.   At my sons' elementary school there was
> > free breakfast and
> >    lunch for minority children, free before and
> > after daycare for
> >    minority children, they had the "BBC'......the
> > black boys club which
> >    held field trips, pizza parties and more
> > exclusively for "african
> >    american" students. Hispanic, Asian and all
> other
> > minority students
> >    were excluded....community mentoring and big
> > brother programs, etc.
> >    The principal was African American, and she too
> k
> > all of the money
> 
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