[Rhodes22-list] Need To Know - Nuclear materials 'vanish' in Iraq

[Steve]

Well said, Roger.  
Steve


--- Roger Pihlaja <cen09402 at centurytel.net> wrote:

> Guys,
> 
> 1st of all, let me admit I have no specific
> knowledge in this instance
> regarding the disappearance of nuclear materials in
> Iraq.  However, during
> the 1st Gulf War, I held a DoD security clearance at
> the level of SECRET, as
> a consequence of certain projects I was working on. 
> I have a little
> understanding of how sensitive security matters are
> handled, especially in
> time of war.  No matter your security clearance
> level, everyone is not told
> everything that is going on that their security
> clearance level might
> entitle them to know.  Some one with an appropriate
> security clearance must
> approve an individual's "need to know".  i.e., this
> individual needs to know
> something in order to save their life or do their
> job.
> 
> Saddam Hussein also apparently had a highly
> compartmentalized or "need to
> know' security philosophy regarding how he ran
> Iraq's WMD programs.
> Since the UN weapons inspection program had tagged
> these Iraqi facilities,
> the US certainly knew about them.  I will make a
> fearless prediction that it
> is
> the US that is dismantling & removing those sites. 
> If I were in charge of
> that
> effort, I would not announce it until after all the
> sites were gone & the
> materials in them secure.  Because of Sadaam's
> highly compartmentalized
> security system and the number of folks captured
> during & since the war,
> the Iraqi insurgents may not be aware of these
> sites.  Why make security
> more difficult for the highly specialized teams
> dismantling these sites by
> announcing their locations to the Iraqi insurgents?
> 
> Likewise, the UN does not have a "need to know"
> while the dismantling
> operation is on going.  They do not have any
> personnel at risk in the
> operation & their knowing about it only creates
> another potential security
> leak which might put American personnel at risk.
> 
> I would not be surprised to hear the US make an
> announcement regarding
> the dismantling & removal of these sites in the near
> future.  With prior
> knowledge from the UN weapons inspectors regarding
> these sites, if the
> US allowed them to fall into enemy hands; then, this
> would amount to a
> criminal level of incompetence.  Heads should roll
> if we screwed up that
> badly!  Of course, stranger things have happened. 
> Stay tuned!
> 
> Roger Pihlaja
> S/V Dynamic Equilibrium
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Steve" <rhodes2282 at yahoo.com>
> To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list"
> <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2004 11:17 AM
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Nuclear materials
> 'vanish' in Iraq
> 
> 
> >
> >
> >
> > Good question there at the end, Brad:-)
> > Steve
> >
> > --- brad haslett <flybrad at yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Wait a minute. I thought good old Saddam lost
> all
> > > interest in his nuclear program and WMD. 
> Aluminum
> > > tubes, what aluminum tubes?  Sec. of State
> Powell
> > > was
> > > lying or had bad evidence, right?  The Communist
> > > News
> > > Network did not break this story, it came from
> > > Rueters
> > > and was published in the NY Times as well. 
> Their
> > > source is a UN agency, those Oil-for-Food
> > > trustworthy
> > > souls.  If you go back to the news articles of
> May
> > > 2003 you will find that the US forces were days
> late
> > > arriving at nuclear sites and some barrels of
> waste
> > > material was dumped out so the locals could use
> the
> > > barrels for drinking water.  Too bad for them,
> the
> > > health problems are starting to appear.  Dual
> use
> > > equipment?  What do you need?  The French,
> Germans,
> > > Russians, and Chinese will sell you whatever you
> > > want.
> > >
> > > Look, it is bad that these items are unaccounted
> for
> > > but this is hardly news.  The timing is a bit
> > > suspicious though.  Read the letter to the
> editor to
> > > the New York Times from Saddam's bomb builder.
> > > Here's
> > > the link.
> > >
> > > http://209.157.64.200/focus/f-news/1227547/posts
> > >
> > > So what's the logic here?  You feel less safe
> > > because
> > > nuclear materials are missing but you would feel
> > > more
> > > safe if Saddam was still in power and knew where
> > > they
> > > were?  Huh?
> > >
> > > Brad Haslett
> > > "CoraShen"
> > >
> > > --- "Gardner, Douglas (LNG-DAY)"
> > > <douglas.gardner at lexisnexis.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Well, here's one cost of instability in Iraq.
> > > >
> > > > Each of us will come to our own conclusions
> about
> > > > what this means (or
> > > > doesn't mean), but I for one don't feel safer
> now
> > > > than when I woke up this
> > > > morning.
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/meast/10/11/iraq.nuclear/index.html
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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