[Rhodes22-list] More Lacking Etiquette

[Michael Meltzer]

The way I heard it: you use your own anchor rode, what way you get the 
work of putting back together and it the difference between giving a tow 
and providing the equipment to give a tow(higher salvage claim), A 
yatchman should never claim salvage for a tow(that etiquette), but the 
commercial (sea tow, boat us, fisherman sometimes, etc.. will charge) 
and you are best off agreeing to a price before hand otherwise is is a 
salvage claim. All this is tempered by conditions and distance. 20 
minutes to a dock on a sunny day vs 20 miles offshore in a storm, hard 
grounding all bets are off(i.e salvage), same goes for taking on water. 
BTW beware of power boats giving a tow, they go to fast sometimes.

My favorite: the captain is respectable for everything on the boat. no 
one else. i.e. the helmsman hits a buoy in broad daylight, 5000$ of 
damage the captain pays, the captain was sleeping in the cabin, still 
his fault, try to blame the crew or anyone else, wrong still his faults, 
tries to give the bill to anyone, big time wrong, the boat is holed by 
the bouy(salvage that the captain pays), boat is a totaled loose, the 
captain lost. Bad charts, his fault, part breaks, still his fault. crew 
does not follow orders, his fault. Boat yard screewed up, still the 
captin. Get hit by another boat, even following the rules(i.e standon), 
still will be blamed for "poor seamanship". Something happen 
dock/anchor/mooring while the captin is 100 miles away, still his fault, 
should have been "maned". No water on board, salvage.

It ok to jump on another boat at the dock to fend off and save it from a 
"docking challenged captain".

If something break, is damaged, tell the captin, do not "hide" it. If 
someone causes damage to your boat, let is slide or file with your 
insurance(the Jay Paul Getty thing). get sick, spill something, overflow 
the head, clean it up.

MJM






Bob Weber wrote:

> Slim, I am looking for correct behavior either legal or polite. Most 
> of the high seas laws were nothing more than common sense etiquette at 
> one time until someone lacking commonsense or etiquette caused a stink 
> by not abiding. The fact that I have to teach the good semaritan 'Law" 
> in class is an example of this. Bob
>
>> From: Steve Alm <salm at mn.rr.com>
>> Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>> To: Rhodes <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] More Lacking Etiquette
>> Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2004 14:13:10 -0500
>>
>> Bob,
>>
>> Are you looking for etiquette or law? Two different things, aren't they?
>> This one seems like a legal issue whereas helping a stranger land his 
>> boat
>> is etiquette. What about finding an unattended vessel at sea? Finders
>> keepers? But again--that's law, no?
>>
>> Slim
>>
>> On 10/13/04 1:46 PM, "Bob Weber" <ruba1811 at hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > I thought of another one having to do with the High Seas Salvage 
>> rules but
>> > forget how it goes. When getting assistance from another vessel - 
>> who has
>> > to throw a line to whom so as not to lose your boat to the rescuer 
>> on a
>> > technicality? anyone? Bueler.
>> >
>> > BW
>> >
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