[Rhodes22-list]Political commentary of my Heritage of thought to Brad

[brad haslett]

Ed,

You are preaching to the choir.  I don't mind being
attacked on message but still am shocked when they
attack the messenger.

Fan has no misunderstanding about this.  After
enduring Chairman Mao, this is child's play to her.

Louis Haslett would be much more gracious in this
situation.  Often I wish I had his faith and wisdom. 
Perhaps that lesson of tolerance was missed in my
troubled childhood.

Brad
--- ed kroposki <ekroposki at charter.net> wrote:

> 
> Brad:
> 
> 	Now you get a feeling for what I wrote about. 
> Moreover, look at the
> subsequent posts.  When I complained about the
> accuracy of alleged facts, I
> was accused of personal attacks.  Now America where
> the applications of
> fossil fuel uses were developed to raise the
> standard of living for
> humankind is wrong for having done so. 
> 
> 	I sit here having learned about economics and
> economic development
> in college from a couple of refugees to the USA.  My
> principal tutor was a
> man who fled Austria in the late 1930's because he
> was Jewish.  He had a
> doctorate in economics from a prestigious Austrian
> university.  Some of his
> teachers were the premier writers of economic
> history and theory, in
> particular, Joseph Schumpeter.  
> 
> 	When Dr. Crosser came to the U.S., he attended
> Columbia University
> in New York.  He went to work for FDR and the New
> Deal.  He understood
> capitalism, socialism and communism.  He knew the
> different economic systems
> and taught how each was structured.
> 
> 	Thanks to him, I believe that I understand
> capitalism, socialism,
> and communism.  Since then I have observed which
> systems have made life
> better for people.  It is not socialism or
> communism.  The evidence is that
> whether given a choice or not, human beings do not
> work at peak performance
> altruistically.  
> 
> 	Why do humans have to work at peak performance
> anyway?  In doing so,
> they solve problems and invent new things or ways of
> doing things.  People
> like Roger, given the opportunity, develop new ways
> of doing things. Given
> the chance, they will solve the energy dilemma. 
> 
> 	What is all this about?  The answer is politics. 
> Mr. Kerry espouses
> policies that at the least are socialistic and verge
> on dictatorship by
> federal decree.  That is dictatorship of the
> proletariat, which by
> definition is Communism. 
> 
> 	The greatest advances in the quality of human life
> have occurred
> when people have been given freedom to choose in the
> market place of ideas
> and products.  There always are those who think that
> their way is best and
> everyone else should be compelled to the same.  
> 
> 	The terrorist in Iraq and Afghanistan are trying to
> compel all
> others in those countries to do as they say. 
> Advocates of socialized
> medicine say that everyone should get the same
> program as determined by the
> government.  Communism says that everyone should put
> into society and
> receive back an equal share.  Those unable to put in
> anything are still
> entitled to an equal share.  The result has shown
> that even those capable of
> putting in more slack off because they get an equal
> share regardless of
> their contribution. 
> 
> 	Let us understand that one candidate advocates
> socialism and one
> advocate's capitalism.  One advocates copying the
> failed economic policies
> of Europe and one is an iconoclast of capitalism.  
> 
> 	Enough said.
> 
> Ed K 
> 
> 	  
> 
> 	 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On
> Behalf Of brad haslett
> Sent: Friday, October 15, 2004 5:16 PM
> To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Outboard Repair
> 
> Bill,
> 
> "You continually allow yourself to become so
> invested
> in your intellectual position that you refuse to
> listen to the experience of others. Notwithstanding
> your troubled childhood, or whatever it was, you are
> a
> respected member of every community you join, and
> your
> opinions are truly valued by all.  It is OK for you
> to
> listen to others, and change your mind."
> 
>  _________________________________________________
> 
> Sir, you don't survive 30+ years of flying without
> respecting the experience of others.
> 
> Troubled childhood?  I'm 48 years old.  My father
> would probably kick your ass for saying what you
> said
> but he's too old and and so am I.  Frankly dear, I
> don't give a shit for your opinion on that subject.
> 
> A respected member of every community you join? 
> Yes,
> thank-you.  Why would I join otherwise?
> 
> Valued by all?  No!  
> 
> Bill, I enjoy the give-and-take we've engaged in on
> this list.  Settle down Boy.  I don't mean that in a
> Southern way.  Relax.  I'm right, you're wrong, or,
> visa versa.
> 
> We are talking about outboard motors.  Its not life
> and death.  I got a pocketfull of federally issued
> tickets that say I at least knew something about it
> at
> some point in time. Suck/Squeeze/Bang/Blow, that is.
> 
> You give me the word and I'm off the list, you got
> the
> party all to yourself.  Your call!
> 
> Brad Haslett
> "CoraShen"
> 
>   
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- Bill Effros <bill at effros.com> wrote:
> 
> > Brad,
> > 
> > You continually allow yourself to become so
> invested
> > in your intellectual position that you refuse to
> > listen to the experience of others. 
> Notwithstanding
> > your troubled childhood, or whatever it was, you
> are
> > a respected member of every community you join,
> and
> > your opinions are truly valued by all.  It is OK
> for
> > you to listen to others, and change your mind.
> > 
> > Just because an airline mechanic does something,
> > that doesn't make it right.  Just because an
> > engineer says something, that doesn't make it
> right.
> > 
> > You remember when cargo doors used to pop off
> > DC-10s.  The airline mechanics and engineers
> screwed
> > up big time.  You have confidence that they have
> > changed certain professional opinions and
> rectified
> > their errors, knowing they were wrong regarding
> > their initial specifications.
> > 
> > I can understand why aircraft pilots would like
> > their mechanics to throw a pinch of salt over
> their
> > shoulders "just to be on the safe side".   I might
> > be a little more superstitious, too.  But let's
> call
> > it what it is.
> > 
> > With a little outboard on the back of a sailboat
> you
> 
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