[Rhodes22-list] Re: Politics - Where do we draw the line?

Wed Oct 20 12:04:18 EDT 2004

Brad,

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Bill

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----- Original Message ----- 
From: brad haslett 
To: The Rhodes 22 mail list 
Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2004 10:18 AM
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Re: Politics - Where do we draw the line?

The rest of the story:

On August 22, 2002 President Bush 43 was attending a
Republican fund raiser in Portland, OR and the
Presidential motorcade was met by over 1500 radical
left-wing protesters as it approached the Hilton
Hotel.  The local police lost control of the crowd and
the streets surrounding the Hilton.  One of the
vehichles near the "package" was hit with a rock and
several others were stopped by protesters.  The Secret
Service was furious with the local police for their
lack of security.  Later, Republican donors attempting
to enter the Hilton were physically attacked by the
protesters.  Ironically, the North American Gay
Amateur Athletic Alliance (NAGAA) was holding a
meeting at the hotel and several members of their
members were attacked trying to enter as well.  Had
these gays been attacked by a bunch of rabid
right-wing radicals it would be front page news on the
NY Times and every other newspaper in the country.  It
barely recieved any coverage.

Frankly, I'm a bit suprised that Bush went to Medford
at all.   I love the city of Portland but it is known
as "Little Beruit", Medford is even worse.  Were I on
Bush's security detail I'd advise against going there
at all.  You'll notice the school teachers did not
sign their loyalty oaths, they in fact lied to get in
a private affair.  That alone is reason enough for
being escorted off the property at a private event.
Ever try "crashing" a wedding party? This fact seems
to have "escaped" the local press covering the event. 
This event may be a bad PR day for the local
Republicans but is hardly a "Brownshirt" incident. 
1500 protesters attacking the Presidential motorcade,
attacking innocent hotel guests, even the gay ones -
now there's your "Brownshirts".

BTW - Grayson, Rohm was killed at a resort on the
Tegernsee.  I've been there.  Its a beautiful place
now that we kicked the Nazi's out.

Brad Haslett
"CoraShen"

Grayson/Ena Lynn <agl2001 at earthlink.net> wrote:

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> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Chris Geankoplis" <napoli68 at charter.net>
> To: "stan" <stan at rhodes22.com>; "The Rhodes 22 mail
> list"
> <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2004 11:48 AM
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Re: Politics
> 
> 
> > Stan,
> >
> > I've been keeping my head down but I've got to
> relate an incident that
> > occurred here in Medford a few days ago.  The
> President visited and there
> > was a large turnout at the fairgrounds.  Three of
> my fellow teachers,
> ladies
> > all (in all ways) went to the speech with their
> tickets and were admitted.
> > (the loyalty oath had been signed by another
> person and the tickets were
> > given to these teachers) (I suspect Ashcroft is
> instituting an
> investigation
> > as we speak).  Then the threat was detected by the
> "security" provided by
> > the republican party and the teachers were
> threatened with arrest for
> > wearing an (and I quote from first hand sources)
> an obscene slogan on the
> > t-shirts.  More security guards and secrete
> service were called and the
> > teachers were " emphatically" escorted out:  they
> were told they would be
> > arrested if they tried to enter the "private
> affair"again.  The obscene
> > slogan on their t-shirt?
> >
> > "Protect our Civil Rights"  and nothing more.
>
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> 
> Sturmabteilung
> >From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.
> This article focuses on the stormtroopers of Nazi
> Germany. For other types
> of stormtrooper, see Stormtrooper.
> 
>
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> ----
> 
> The Sturmabteilung (SA, German for "Assault Unit"
> and is usually translated
> as stormtroops or stormtroopers) functioned as a
> paramilitary organisation
> of the NSDAP - the German Nazi party. It played a
> key role in Adolf Hitler's
> rise to power in the 1930s. SA men were often known
> as brownshirts from the
> colour of their uniform and to distinguish them from
> the SS who were known
> as blackshirts.
> 
> History
> 
> The term Sturmabteilung originally came from the
> specialized assault troops
> used by Germany in 1918 in World War I utilising
> Hutier tactics. Instead of
> a large mass assault, the Sturmabteilung were
> organized into small teams of
> a few soldiers each. First applied during the Battle
> of Cambrai the wider
> use in March 1918 allowed the Germans to push back
> British and French lines
> tens of kilometers.
> 
> In Munich, in the fall of 1920, Hitler himself
> created the Ordnertruppen; a
> body of muscular Nazis, ex-soldiers, and beer hall
> brawlers in order to
> protect his speeches and disrupt his opponents. It
> originally functioned as
> a group of bodyguards to enforce order at Nazi
> gatherings. It was shortly
> changed to Sportabteilung, a cover name meaning
> "Sports section" and came to
> be known by the initials SA. In late 1921, the name
> was changed to the
> current name Sturmabteilung. Under their popular
> leader, Ernst Röhm, the SA
> grew in importance within the Nazi power structure,
> eventually claiming
> thousands of members. The SA carried out numerous
> acts of violence against
> socialist groups throughout the 1920s, typically in
> minor street-fights
> called zusammenstösse ('collisions'). The SS
> eventually took over their
> original role.
> 
> After Hitler took power in 1933 the SA became
> increasingly anxious for power
> and saw themselves as the replacement for the German
> army. This angered the
> regular army (Reichswehr) who were already quite
> annoyed at the Nazi party.
> It also led to tension with other leaders within the
> party, who saw Röhm's
> increasingly powerful SA as a threat to their own
> personal ambitions.
> 
> In order to ally himself with conservative forces
> within the German Army and
> to strengthen his position within the Nazi Party,
> Hitler ordered the
> execution of the leadership of the SA which took
> place on June 30-July 1,
> 1934 on what is known as the Night of the Long
> Knives. Victor Lutze became
> the new leader of the SA, and the organization was
> soon marginalized in the
> Nazi power structure.
> 
> SA Maxims
> "Terror must be broken by terror" (1)
> "All opposition must be stamped into the ground" (1)
> 
> Modern usage
> Today, the term "Brown Shirts" has been used to
> disparage the extreme rank
> and file of right wing and left wing organizations.
> It can also mean an
> individual of a political organization who is seen
> as very narrow-minded and
> excessively loyal.
> 
> The term "Digital Brownshirts," coined by former
> Vice-President Al Gore, is
> used by him to disparage the right wing weblogs that
> criticize a perceived
> liberal agenda in the mainstream media.
> 
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