[Rhodes22-list] Politics - more fuel for the fire

Fri Oct 22 11:41:03 EDT 2004

Bob,

I don't know.  All anyone can do at this point is
speculate.  Pilots are loathe to rush to judgement
until all the facts are in on an accident and
sometimes that takes months if not years.

Having made that disclaimer, given the weather and the
long duty day, statistically, it was probably a garden
variety CFIT accident.  CFIT - Controlled Flight Into
Terrain.  They were tired, got below glidepath, and
hit trees short of the runway.  

The papers go off chasing stories about this/that
equipment, blah, blah, blah.   You can put so much
equipment on a plane it can barely take-off but it
won't help you at the end of a 15 hour day and you're
too tired to use it! The release of the cockpit voice
recorder transcript will help.  Right now the papers
are writing stories based on snippets released by the
NTSB.

BTW - Black boxes are actually orange cans.

Brad
--- Bob Weber <ruba1811 at hotmail.com> wrote:

> Brad, What did happen with that commuter flight at
> Kirksville?  I read 
> probably the same article and they brushed over the
> occurance and talked 
> about the survivors.  Was the plane intending to
> land at Kriksville?  Bob
> 
> >From: brad haslett <flybrad at yahoo.com>
> >Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> >To: stan <stan at rhodes22.com>,The Rhodes 22 mail
> list 
> ><rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> >Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Politics - more fuel
> for the fire
> >Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2004 09:12:06 -0700 (PDT)
> >
> >Stan,
> >
> >Fortunately for all, today's flying doesn't permit
> any
> >lengthy discussion so I'll pick on you primarily
> and
> >the others briefly.
> >
> >Inflation -  The CPI is rising and in some ways
> this
> >is good.  We have survived an economic "perfect
> >storm", an overdue downturn in the business cycle,
> the
> >DotCom bust, and 9/11.  Inflation is normal in a
> >recovery.  Steel and cement is up because of the
> >incredible demand from China (oil too but we'll get
> to
> >that later), housing and materials are up because
> of
> >the strong real estate market spurred by record low
> >interest rates, and oil is on one of its irrational
> >swings which is the norm for that commodity.  Now
> for
> >your business, I think you will see a continued
> >increase in prices for boat related items.  A boat
> >owner friend of mine from Florida told me yesterday
> >his insurer has over 2000 boats missing from the
> >hurricanes.  The number of damaged boats is much
> >greater than that!  This could be a very good
> period
> >for boat builders and repair centers.  Inflation
> could
> >be your friend!
> >
> >It pains me to think of you and Rose working
> >yourselves to a frazzle "getting out the vote". 
> What
> >ever happened to the "good old days" where folks
> like
> >Lyndon Johnson and Mayor Dailey just got dead
> people
> >to vote early and vote often?  Seems a lot simpler
> to
> >me.
> >
> >To those of you who refer to newspaper headlines to
> >make your point;  on the way to Memphis this
> morning I
> >read to my crew a front page article in the USA
> Today
> >on the Missouri commuter airline crash on Tuesday.
> >We had some good belly laughs over how silly and
> >erroneous most of the article was.  If you rely
> only
> >on what you read in the papers, you'll be sadly
> >misinformed.
> >
> >Jim White - I agree with everything you said but I
> >have a question.  You wrote, "And they're
> registering
> >lots of people who seldom or never vote too. Gettin
> >'em out for this critical national erection.
> >Was that a typo, a really good pun, or are you
> >Chinese?
> >If there's going to be a national erection on Nov.
> 2 I
> >may want to run for office.
> >
> >Brad Haslett
> >"CoraShen"
> >
> >--- stan <stan at rhodes22.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Mark,
> > >
> > > thanks for the link posting but ...
> > >
> > > Facts are not going to change minds. This is a
> faith
> > > based decision making
> > > problem. Our only satisfaction is going to be
> "We
> > > told you so".  The way to
> > > avoid the upcoming destruction of this country
> is to
> > > switch administration
> > > and the only way to do that is to heed Eric
> > > Newburger and others who say
> > > that only way to throw the rascals out is to get
> > > those who do not vote, to
> > > vote.  We have already voted but we are going to
> do
> > > whatever we can to get
> > > those we know who never vote, to go vote - and
> that
> > > is what you and those
> > > who really understand what is happening to this
> > > country, should be doing.
> > > Just one of the many issues we can attest to as
> a
> > > small business is the rate
> > > of inflation.  It's astronomical,  although the
> > > government is currently
> > > keeping it quiet with their system of only
> counting
> > > those items that have
> > > not gone up that much, Yet.   As Eliza Doolittle
> > > sings in My Fair Lady,
> > > "Just you wait".
> > >
> > > stan/gbi
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Mark Kaynor" <mark at kaynor.org>
> > > To: "'The Rhodes 22 mail list'"
> > > <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > > Sent: Friday, October 22, 2004 8:08 AM
> > > Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Politics - more fuel
> for
> > > the fire
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > >
>
>http://www.thenation.com/doc.mhtml?i=20041108&s=facts
> > > >
> > > > Mark
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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