[Rhodes22-list] Reefer Madness
Bob Weber
ruba1811 at hotmail.com
Fri Oct 29 12:43:48 EDT 2004
Lloyd, then I should be more clear when I said 'all without leaving the
cockpit'. It would be more accurate to have said 'all without going on
deck'. I too put the top down after about 12 kts. To reef I put it up so I
can get to the base of the mast w/o going on deck. Bob
>From: "Lloyd Crowther" <lcrowther at cox.net>
>Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Reefer Madness
>Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 12:32:46 -0400
>
>Bob,
>
>I never sail with the pop-top up but would not, in any case, have it up in
>a
>situation that might required reefing. But then, I'm really a pussy cat
>plus I sail single-handed most of the time. Since many readers on this
>list
>really dissect every message (to learn more about a subject they are
>interested in) I have found clarity a number one rule in making any point.
>
>Lloyd
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Bob Weber" <ruba1811 at hotmail.com>
>To: <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 10:34 AM
>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Reefer Madness
>
>
> > LLoyd, Thanks for the clarification - it makes much more sense when you
>say
> > it. Mabey you should teach instead of me. I did not care too much for
> > comprehension since I was just answering critizism and he was not
>wanting
> > info. With the Pop-Top up I can, infact insist, do the whole thing from
>the
> > cockpit. I don't let students go forward unless it is dead calm. The
>only
> > time I need to go forward is a reefing line which came off the reel or a
>jib
> > sheet caught on the deck cleat, both of whch happen a lot when you got
> > rookies running the boat.
> >
> > Bob
> >
> > >From: "Lloyd Crowther" <lcrowther at cox.net>
> > >Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > >To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > >Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Reefer Madness
> > >Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 01:12:01 -0400
> > >
> > >Steve,
> > >
> > >I think if you read Bob's description carefully what he is trying to
>say
> > >when he says "You pull one line which is lead forward along the boom
>to
> > >about the companion way and it pulls the boom up to the new clew." he
> > >means
> > >he pulls the after section of the boom up to the reefing points clew on
>the
> > >sail's leach (rotating the end of the boom up, not moving the forward
>end
> > >of
> > >the boom up) by means of a line that goes from the rear of the boom up
> > >through the gourmet at the rear of the reef lines in the mainsail, back
> > >down
> > >through a block on the rear starboard of the boom, and then forward to
>a
> > >cleat on the starboard side of the boom at "about the companion way".
>I
> > >have the same system on my boat. After he lowers the head of the
>mainsail
> > >("Drop the halyard to a preset point") he brings the reefing point's
>clew
> > >gourmet at the luff of the mainsail to the right location on the boom
> > >using
> > >a line from near the port front of the boom, up through said gourmet,
>and
> > >back down to a fitting on the starboard side of the mast near its base.
> > >Then he probably uses his reefing lines to handle the excess mainsail.
> > >However, I doubt that I could do this whole maneuver without ever
>leaving
> > >my
> > >cockpit.
> > >
> > >Lloyd
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > >From: "Steve" <rhodes2282 at yahoo.com>
> > >To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > >Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2004 2:07 PM
> > >Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Reefer Madness
> > >
> > >
> > > > I guess I would have to see it work. As long as it
> > > > works; that all that matters.
> > > > Steve
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- Bob Weber <ruba1811 at hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Steve, I donno - it works great. Only the end to
> > > > > the boom goes up about 2
> > > > > feet. If you change the order of operations it
> > > > > would work as well but you
> > > > > risk dropping the boom on your head / water. The
> > > > > sail is totally depowered
> > > > > while I do this anyway so it is of little matter.
> > > > > BW
> > > > > >From: Steve <rhodes2282 at yahoo.com>
> > > > > >Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> > > > > <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > > > > >To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> > > > > <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > > > > >Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Reefer Madness
> > > > > >Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2004 09:35:41 -0700 (PDT)
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Bob
> > > > > >PUll the boom up to the new clew. In reefing, you
> > > > > are
> > > > > >better off lowing the sail. NOt reising the boom
> > > > > up
> > > > > >the mast. This don't sound right to me!!
> > > > > >Steve
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >--- Bob Weber <ruba1811 at hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Lou, That was my project last off season. I
> > > > > found
> > > > > > > an inexpensive system at
> > > > > > > Sailrite.com
> > > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >http://secure.sailrite.com/value/viewcart.asp?CartId={EVERESTE5AD9975-C9A5-
> > >4333-9D7C-4CD8583CF145}&Tp=&VCT=&WERR=
> > > > > > > It is simple and straight forward. It has been
> > > > > > > effective even when I failed
> > > > > > > to follow the "Reef Early" moto. You sail a
> > > > > close
> > > > > > > hauled course under
> > > > > > > headsail, unsheet the main. You pull one line
> > > > > > > which is lead forward along
> > > > > > > the boom to about the companion way and it pulls
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > boom up to the new
> > > > > > > clew. Drop the halyard to a preset point. Pull
> > > > > on
> > > > > > > a second line which is
> > > > > > > lead to the cleat at the base of the mast to
> > > > > secure
> > > > > > > the new (reefed) tack.
> > > > > > > Your done. Never left the cockpit, assuming you
> > > > > > > have lead the main halyard
> > > > > > > aft to the cockpit already. The kit provides
> > > > > > > grommets for the clew and tack
> > > > > > > but I had this done by Sail Care duing the prior
> > > > > > > season. I feel much better
> > > > > > > in the grommets that they put in (plus the sail
> > > > > > > reinforcing) rather than the
> > > > > > > ones supplied in the kit. The cleaning of my
> > > > > main
> > > > > > > and the addition of 2
> > > > > > > reaf points and a full batten at the top only
> > > > > ran
> > > > > > > about 140. I recommend it
> > > > > > > highly. If I missed a point drop me a note. I
> > > > > have
> > > > > > > sailed with a reefed
> > > > > > > main as often as not so don't put it off or you
> > > > > will
> > > > > > > miss some good sailing
> > > > > > > days next season. Bob
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >From: Lou Rosenberg <lsr3 at MAIL.nyu.edu>
> > > > > > > >Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> > > > > > > <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > > > > > > >To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> > > > > > > <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > > > > > > >Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Reefer Madness
> > > > > > > >Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2004 11:54:08 -0400
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Rhodes Sailors,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I was wondering for those adventurous view
> > > > > who
> > > > > > > don't have an IMF rig, how
> > > > > > > >they reef their mainsails?
> > > > > > > > Is anyone using Lazyjacks ?
> > > > > > > > Doyle Stack Packs?
> > > > > > > > Harken reef
> > > > > systems?
> > > > > > > > Regular jiffy or slab reefing with a
> > > > > different
> > > > > > > twist???
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Lou
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
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