[Rhodes22-list] Swing States

Steve Alm salm at mn.rr.com
Fri Oct 29 16:55:56 EDT 2004 

Herb,
I can only speak for Minnesota.  The Republicans have done nothing but cut
ed funds every year they had the chance.  Or dems have tried to boost it but
got vetoed by former Republican or Independent (Jesse Ventura) Governors.
Nobody is getting more.  Everybody is getting less.  Almost every district
in the state is cutting.  The Minneapolis district alone is closing at least
a dozen schools.  I hear Bush saying he's increased ed funds but we just
don't see it at the classroom level.  That money goes mostly for new testing
with the NCLB Act but falls short of actually paying for it.  This means the
work load for teachers has increased but the money's not there to cover it.
That translates to less time the teachers have to actually teach.  Or
rather, they have to spend a lot more time teaching how to take tests.
Slim

On 10/29/04 3:20 PM, "Herb Parsons" <hparsons at parsonsys.com> wrote:

> What money did anyone take away?
> 
> Herb Parsons
> 
> S/V O'Jure
> 1976 O'Day 25
> 
> S/V Reve de Papa
> 1971 Coronado 35
> 
>>>> salm at mn.rr.com 10/29/04 3:15 PM >>>
> Steve,
> 
> You're right that throwing money at it might not necessarily fix it, but
> taking money away definitely won't fix it.
> 
> Maybe I am an example of a failed system.  I'm nothing but a rock and
> roll
> yahoo who makes it on his own--not some government employee who wastes
> the
> taxpayers dollars sitting around the office emailing his friends.  Can
> you
> say "Pork"?
> 
> Slim
> 
> On 10/29/04 2:35 PM, "Steve" <rhodes2282 at yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
>> Slim
>> If teacher did ther job, this country would not have
>> the education mess you all are talking about.
>> Throwing money at a problem does nothing to fix the
>> problem.  
>> 
>> Take a liberal such as yourself; will you ever learn
>> anything, could a teacher teach you anything?  You are
>> a prime example of the fail education system.  You
>> make a great example!!!!!!!!!!!
>> Steve
>> 
>> 
>> --- Steve Alm <salm at mn.rr.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Steve,
>>> What? Not that busy?  I don't know what teachers are
>>> doing down there in
>>> Arkansas, but when I was teaching, most of my work
>>> weeks were 50-60 hours.
>>> It looks like you're the one who is not that busy.
>>> Aren't you supposed to
>>> be analyzing something for our government today?
>>> You're loafing around on
>>> your computer on someone else's dime.  Quit
>>> lollygagging at your email and
>>> get back to work and pay your taxes so all them po
>>> chillen down there will
>>> have a nice school to go to!
>>> 
>>> Slim
>>> 
>>> On 10/29/04 2:09 PM, "Steve" <rhodes2282 at yahoo.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Slim
>>>> Come on, The teacher are not that busy.  They
>>> don't
>>>> even work a full day anymore.  Testing is part of
>>>> thier job.  If they were doing thier job; there
>>> would
>>>> not had been a need in the No Child Left Behind
>>> law.
>>>> The reason this country had to pass an
>>> accountability
>>>> law was to let the school system know that if you
>>>> don't start teaching the kids; you will lose you
>>>> school.  
>>>> Steve
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> --- Steve Alm <salm at mn.rr.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Until teacher go back to
>>>>>> teaching; this country will have an education
>>>>> problem.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Steve, Right - the teachers are so busy with
>>> testing
>>>>> they don't have time to
>>>>> teach.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Its the
>>>>>> teachers that need to go to work.  That is what
>>>>> will
>>>>>> fix the education problem.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Wrong - the teachers are hard at work.  If you
>>> don't
>>>>> believe that, try
>>>>> walking a mile in those shoes.  It's the parents
>>>>> that need to go to work.
>>>>> Research studies have clearly shown that students
>>>>> who's parents value the
>>>>> education of their kids enough to nurture it
>>> succeed
>>>>> even with
>>>>> less-than-stellar teachers.  Conversely, students
>>>>> who's parents don't care
>>>>> enough to even feed their kid breakfast in the
>>>>> morning are going to have
>>>>> many problems even with the very best teachers a
>>>>> pittance can buy.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Slim
>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> --- stan <stan at rhodes22.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> thanks Steve, but since I do not use drugs I am
>>>>> not
>>>>>>> tuned into this bill -
>>>>>>> but Elton studied it and he says it is a
>>> disaster
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> we have all come to the conclusion re the
>>> dumbing
>>>>>>> down of America.  99% of
>>>>>>> the youngsters I interview for jobs do not know
>>>>> how
>>>>>>> many 1/8ths of an inch
>>>>>>> are in an inch.  My understanding is that the
>>>>>>> problem with the bipartisan
>>>>>>> education efforts is that the promised funding
>>> is
>>>>>>> not there (understandably
>>>>>>> with war and tax cuts) to back up the paper
>>>>>>> promises.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> stan/gbi
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>> From: "Steve" <rhodes2282 at yahoo.com>
>>>>>>> To: "stan" <stan at rhodes22.com>; "The Rhodes 22
>>>>> mail
>>>>>>> list" 
>>>>>>> <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 10:53 AM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Swing States
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Stan
>>>>>>>> Bush gave the liberal a Prescription Drug
>>>>> benefit
>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>> the Democrats had been promissing you all for
>>>>>>>> generations.
>>>>>>>> ]
>>>>>>>> What more can you ask for.  He has already did
>>>>>>> more
>>>>>>>> for the Democrats than the democrats have done
>>>>> for
>>>>>>> 30
>>>>>>>> years.  He let Kennedy write the education
>>> bill
>>>>> if
>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>> remember right.
>>>>>>>> Steve
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
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