[Rhodes22-list] Can a girlyman be a sailor

Steve rhodes2282 at yahoo.com
Thu Sep 2 11:53:17 EDT 2004 

I agree, there is always hope.  I found very
interesting the well spoken words of a Democrat
yesterday.  Well thought out, well worded, well
spoken; and he was driving his point in HARD to a
bunch of no good Republicans:-)  Now that is one
Democrat that I would vote for.  

If case you missed it; he was a speaker at the
Republican Convension!!!!!!!!!!!! :-)
Steve



--- Ronald Lipton <rlipton at earthlink.net> wrote:

> Stan,
> 
>     Thank you very much for taking the time to write
> your note. I have 
> grown
> increasingly cynical about politics, the power all
> seems to be held by
> the groups and businesses with the money to buy PR,
> and not just
> ads but the media themselves.  Given the backbiting,
> the politics of
> personal destruction, the need to kowtow to
> contributers, I don't see
> how we even get the small fraction of quality
> politicians that we have.
> But it seems that the fraction is getting smaller.  
> There is always 
> hope ...
> I guess.
> 
>     By the way, you can get an interesting
> perspective on the politics of
> Texas and the nation in the second volume of the
> Lyndon Johnson
> biography by Robert Caro.  The Oil companies and
> Brown and Root
> (now a division of Haliburton) figure prominently in
> his first stolen
> senatorial primary as well as his subsequent career.
>  The more things
> change the more they remain the same.
> 
> Ron Lipton
> On Sep 2, 2004, at 9:16 AM, stan wrote:
> 
> > We are back to politics? - Wonderful:
> >
> > Notice when it is one of their own they flip flop:
> >
> > Cheney's daughter is gay so he is against the
> constitution amendment.
> >
> > Bush's father and TX friends went out of their way
> to keep him out of 
> > the fray but if you sign up for it like Kerry did,
> and find it was a 
> > mistake - that is a flip flop.
> >
> > If anyone else is accused of a conflict of
> interest, like Clinton's 
> > wife was strung up for, that is ok, but the flip
> flop allows Mrs. 
> > Cheney to sit on the board of our huge defense
> contractor and that is 
> > not a conflict of interest.  Under whose
> definition?.
> >
> > If you want to do the real count on flip flops,
> see Effros book of 
> > quotes to see who leads by a mile.
> >
> > Chris Mathews says the differences in this
> election are crisp if you 
> > look at the major issues - I liked the way he put
> the decision making:
> >
> > If you want to cut taxes proportionally much
> higher for the wealthiest 
> > of us - you know who to vote for.  .
> >
> > If you have reservations on advancing science -
> you know who to vote 
> > for. (If you have questions on this one, ask
> president Regan's son)
> >
> > If you want us to lead the world single handedly -
> you know who to 
> > vote for.
> >
> > If you do not mind someone else's kid dying to
> secure Feluja (sp?) as 
> > long as it is not you or yours who has to die for
> this strategic piece 
> > of land needed to keep us free of terrorist - you
> know who to vote for
> > (personally I grieve more for the thousands and
> thousands whose lives 
> > are now shattered by wounds then I do for the ones
> who may be going to 
> > heaven to get their 40 virgins)
> >
> > If you think the way to have no child left behind
> is to have the rest 
> > of the children stand still while the left behind
> kids catch up and 
> > therefore flip flop over the funding of the
> program as it was intended 
> > - you know who to vote for.
> >
> > If you think being for the environment is passing
> a law requiring new 
> > energy plants to meet regulations and then
> allowing all energy plants 
> > to rebuild themselves 99% and call that "not new"
> so not under the 
> > regulations - you know who to vote for.
> >
> > And if you think the costs of the higher health
> bills with lower 
> > worker productivity that results from dismantling
> in-place 
> > environmental regulations can be made up with
> tie-ins to a stock 
> > market because it always goes up - you know who to
> vote for.
> >
> > If you agree that the super new debt is going to
> be taken care of by 
> > the super booming economy just around the corner -
> you know who to 
> > vote for.
> >
> > If you think leadership is someone who sits there
> for seven minutes in 
> > a helpless state with a totally blanc look when
> told we are being 
> > attacked, or who lands on an aircraft carrier and
> emerges from a war 
> > plane announcing the war is over when it has not
> even started, is the 
> > kind of man we need to lead this country in war -
> you know who to vote 
> > for.
> >
> > If you think government should stay off your back
> and not be telling 
> > you how to run your personal business and then
> flip flops and tells 
> > you what you have to do with your body - you know
> who to vote for.
> >
> > If you think religion should be allowed to sneak
> into government by 
> > funding religious organizations and other creeping
> back door 
> > techniques because you think religiously
> controlled countries are more 
> > likely to live in peace - you know who to vote for
>  - but you don't 
> > know your history or current events..
> >
> > sorry, I am running out of time - not issues that
> make this election 
> > an easy distinction between the two major parties.
> >
> > Just go out and vote - or you deserve what you
> get.  The last election 
> > was lost to the minority by just a handful of
> voters not voting to 
> > counteract a handful of incompetent old Jewish
> voters who voted for 
> > the favorite son, Buchanan, because they could not
> make out a ballot 
> > that showed the wrong picture next to the one they
> actually intended 
> > to make president.   Vote. Your vote does make a
> difference.
> >
> > stan/gbi
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Alm"
> <salm at mn.rr.com>
> > To: "Rhodes" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2004 3:11 AM
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Can a girlyman be a
> sailor
> >
> >
> >> No doubt it takes that kind of fire power to
> guard the Republicans 
> >> and their
> >> little get-together this week.  Without them
> putting their butts on 
> >> the
> >> line, ready to take a bullet for...um...let's
> see...who?  Just because
> >> you're paranoid doesn't mean they're NOT out to
> get you.  There must 
> >> be
> >> SOMEONE who deserves all that tax-payer money. 
> Would you take a 
> >> bullet for
> >> a politician that most of the world hates?  I
> wouldn't.  And if that 
> >> makes
> >> me a girlyman, then show me to the pantyhose
> isle!  Maybe the original
> >> girlyman, Corporal Klinger, had it right all
> along.  8-)
> >>
> >> Slim
> >>
> >> On 9/1/04 9:19 PM, "Michael Meltzer"
> <mjm at michaelmeltzer.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Ok, I have a beer in one hand and bowl of
> peanuts near the other. 
> >>> Still
> >>> wondering about girlymem, I have to admit the 4
> grardsman on
> >>> the train patform looked cute, the 2 state
> police riding in the 
> >>> train car had
> >>> nice hair cuts, The 200 plus cops in thier cute
> blue
> >>> NYPD uniforms(48 to 58 street, the waldoff did
> it) while I walk to 
> >>> the office.
> >>> But the cutest of all was the swat terms(NYDP
> >>> specical action units), They look darling
> standing thier in thier 
> >>> tight
> >>> unimforms, standing thier with thier m16a2
> finger indexed
> >>> long the triger(at least point down) and the
> selector set to 3 
> >>> round(I think
> >>> so), I gives me a woody just thinking about it.
> Bad
> >>> day! haw! How many are putting thier ass on the
> line.
> >>>
> >>> MJM
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>> From: "ed kroposki" <ekroposki at charter.net>
> >>> To: "'The Rhodes 22 mail list'"
> <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> >>> Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2004 6:53 AM
> >>> Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Can a girlyman be a
> sailor
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> Michael:
> >>>> We understand that you had a bad day.  The use
> of alcohol after such
> >>>> a day yields weird results.  Stay away from the
> bottle.
> >>>> Just tune into Rum Runner music:
> http://users2.ev1.net/~barr/
> >>>> Listen and you can tell what rum will do to
> you.
> >>>>
> >>>> Ed K
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> >>>> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On
> Behalf Of
> >>>> R22RumRunner at aol.com
> >>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2004 6:18 AM
> >>>> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> >>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Can a girlyman be
> a sailor
> >>>>
> >>>> Answer......NO. That would be an oxymoron.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Rummy
> >>>>
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