[Rhodes22-list] you are going to lose one with the flipper
Michael Meltzer
mjm at michaelmeltzer.com
Fri Sep 3 00:38:15 EDT 2004
well it was flame bait for stan :-) so what the hell.....
MJM
----- Original Message -----
From: "Todd Tavares" <sprocket80 at mail.com>
To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2004 10:53 PM
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] you are going to lose one with the flipper
>
> Should I hold my breath? :-D or just save it?
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Michael Meltzer
> Date: Thu, 02 Sep 2004 21:47:43 -0400
> To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] you are going to lose one with the flipper
> > does that work for you?
> >
> > MJM
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Todd Tavares"
> > To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list"
> > Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2004 8:57 PM
> > Subject: [Rhodes22-list] !!
> >
> >
> > >
> > > PLEASE CHANGE THE SUBJECT LINE IF YOU WANT TO TALK POLITICS!!!
> > >
> > > (yes I am yelling)
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: Ronald Lipton
> > > Date: Thu, 2 Sep 2004 12:09:22 -0500
> > > To: The Rhodes 22 mail list ,stan
> > > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Can a girlyman be a sailor
> > > > Stan,
> > > >
> > > > Thank you very much for taking the time to write your note. I
> have
> > > > grown
> > > > increasingly cynical about politics, the power all seems to be
> held
> > > by
> > > > the groups and businesses with the money to buy PR, and not just
> > > > ads but the media themselves. Given the backbiting, the politics
> of
> > > > personal destruction, the need to kowtow to contributers, I
> don't
> > > see
> > > > how we even get the small fraction of quality politicians that
> we
> > > have.
> > > > But it seems that the fraction is getting smaller. There is
> always
> > > > hope ...
> > > > I guess.
> > > >
> > > > By the way, you can get an interesting perspective on the
> politics
> > > of
> > > > ; Texas and the nation in the second volume of the Lyndon
> Johnson
> > > > biography by Robert Caro. The Oil companies and Brown and Root
> > > > (now a division of Haliburton) figure prominently in his first
> > > stolen
> > > > senatorial primary as well as his subsequent career. The more
> things
> > > > change the more they remain the same.
> > > >
> > > > Ron Lipton
> > > > On Sep 2, 2004, at 9:16 AM, stan wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > We are back to politics? - Wonderful:
> > > > >
> > > > > Notice when it is one of their own they flip flop:
> > > > >
> > > > > Cheney's daughter is gay so he is against the constitution
> > > amendment.
> > > > >
> > > > > Bush's father and TX friends went out of their way to keep him
> out
> > > of
> > > > > the fray but if you sign up for it like Kerry did, and find it
> was
> > > a
> > > > > mistake - that is a flip flop.
> > > > >
> > > > > If anyone else is accused of a conflict of interest, like
> > > Clinton's
> > > > > wife was strung up for, that is ok, but the flip flop allows
> Mrs.
> > > > > Cheney to sit on the board of our huge defense contractor and
> that
> > > is
> > > > > not a conflict of interest. Under whose definition?.
> > > > >
> > > > > If you want to do the real count on flip flops, see Effros
> book of
> > > > > quotes to see who leads by a mile.
> > > > >
> > > > > Chris Mathews says the differences in this election are crisp
> if
> > > you
> > > > > look at the major issues - I liked the way he put the decision
> > > making:
> > > > >
> > > > > If you want to cut taxes proportionally much higher for the
> > > wealthiest
> > > > > of us - you know who to vote for. .
> > > > >
> > > > > If you have reservations on advancing science - you know who
> to
> > > vote
> > > > > for. (If you have questions on this one, ask president Regan's
> > > son)
> > > > >
> > > > > If you want us to lead the world single handedly - you know
> who to
> > > > > vote for.
> > > > >
> > > > > If you do not mind someone else's kid dying to secure Feluja
> (sp?)
> > > as
> > > > > long as it is not you or yours who has to die for this
> strategic
> > > piece
> > > > > of land needed to keep us free of terrorist - you know who to
> vote
> > > for
> > > > > (personally I grieve more for the thousands and thousands
> whose
> > > lives
> > > ; > > are now shattered by wounds then I do for the ones who may
> be
> > > going to
> > > > > heaven to get their 40 virgins)
> > > > >
> > > > > If you think the way to have no child left behind is to have
> the
> > > rest
> > > > > of the children stand still while the left behind kids catch
> up
> > > and
> > > > > therefore flip flop over the funding of the program as it was
> > > intended
> > > > > - you know who to vote for.
> > > > >
> > > > > If you think being for the environment is passing a law
> requiring
> > > new
> > > > > energy plants to meet regulations and then allowing all energy
> > > plants
> > > > &g t; to rebuild themselves 99% and call that "not new" so not
> under
> > > the
> > > > > regulations - you know who to vote for.
> > > > >
> > > > > And if you think the costs of the higher health bills with
> lower
> > > > > worker productivity that results from dismantling in-place
> > > > > environmental regulations can be made up with tie-ins to a
> stock
> > > > > market because it always goes up - you know who to vote for.
> > > > >
> > > > > If you agree that the super new debt is going to be taken care
> of
> > > by
> > > > > the super booming economy just around the corner - you know
> who to
> > > > > vote for.
> > > > >
> > > > > If you think leadership is someone who sits there for seven
> > > minutes in
> > > > > a helpless state with a totally blanc look when told we are
> being
> > > > > attacked, or who lands on an aircraft carrier and emerges from
> a
> > > war
> > > > > plane announcing the war is over when it has not even started,
> is
> > > t he
> > > > > kind of man we need to lead this country in war - you know who
> to
> > > vote
> > > > > for.
> > > > >
> > > > > If you think government should stay off your back and not be
> > > telling
> > > > > you how to run your personal business and then flip flops and
> > > tells
> > > > > you what you have to do with your body - you know who to vote
> for.
> > > > >
> > > > > If you think religion should be allowed to sneak into
> government
> > > by
> > > > > funding religious organizations and other creeping back door
> > > > > techniques because you think religiously controlled countries
> are
> > > more
> > > > > likely to live in peace - you know who to vote for - but you
> don't
> > > > > know your history or current ev ents..
> > > > >
> > > > > sorry, I am running out of time - not issues that make this
> > > election
> > > > > an easy distinction between the two major parties.
> > > > >
> > > > > Just go out and vote - or you deserve what you get. The last
> > > election
> > > > > was lost to the minority by just a handful of voters not
> voting to
> > > > > counteract a handful of incompetent old Jewish voters who
> voted
> > > for
> > > > > the favorite son, Buchanan, because they could not make out a
> > > ballot
> > > > > that showed the wrong picture next to the one they actually
> > > intended
> > > > > to make president. Vote. Your vote does make a difference.
> > > > >
> > > > > stan/gbi
> > > > >
> > > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Alm "
> > > > > To: "Rhodes"
> > > > > Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2004 3:11 AM
> > > > > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Can a girlyman be a sailor
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >> No doubt it takes that kind of fire power to guard the
> > > Republicans
> > > > >> and their
> > > > >> little get-together this week. Without them putting their
> butts
> > > on
> > > > >> the > >> line, ready to take a bullet for...um...let's
> see...who?
> > > Just because
> > > > >> you're paranoid doesn't mean they're NOT out to get you.
> There
> > > must
> > > > >> be
> > > > >> SOMEONE who deserves all that tax-payer money. Would you take
> a
> > > > >> bullet for
> > > > >> a politician that most of the world hates? I wouldn't. And if
> > ; > that
> > > > >> makes
> > > > >> me a girlyman, then show me to the pantyhose isle! Maybe the
> > > original
> > > > >> girlyman, Corporal Klinger, had it right all along. 8-)
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Slim
> > > > >>
> > > > >> On 9/1/04 9:19 PM, "Michael Meltzer" wrote:
> > > > >>
> > > > >>> Ok, I have a beer in one hand and bowl of peanuts near the
> > > other.
> > > > >>> Still
> > > > >>> wondering about girlymem, I have to admit the 4 grardsman on
> > > > >>> the train patform looked cute, the 2 state police riding in
> the
> > > > >>> train car had
> > > > >>> nice hair cuts, The 200 plus cops in thier cute blue
> > > > >>> NYPD uniforms(48 to 58 street, the waldoff did it) while I
> walk
> > > to
> > > > >>> the office.
> > > > >>> But the cutest of all was the swat terms(NYDP
> > > > >>> specical action units), They look darling standing thier in
> > > thier
> > > > >>> tight
> > > > >>> unimforms, standing thier with thier m16a2 finger indexed
> > > > >>> long the triger(at least point down) and the selector set to
> 3
> > > > >>> round(I think
> > > > >>> so), I gives me a woody just thinking about it. Bad
> > > > >>> day! haw! How many are putting thier ass on the line.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> MJM
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> ----- Original Message -----
> > > > >>> From: "ed kroposki" < EKROPOSKI at CHARTER.NET>
> > > & gt; >>> To: "'The Rhodes 22 mail list'"
> > > > >>> Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2004 6:53 AM
> > > > >>> Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Can a girlyman be a sailor
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>> Michael:
> > > > >>>> We understand that you had a bad day. The use of alcohol
> after
> > > such
> > > > >>>> a day yields weird results. Stay away from the bottle.
> > > > >>>> Just tune into Rum Runner music:
> http://users2.ev1.net/~barr/
> > > > >>>> Listen and you can tell what rum will do to you.
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> Ed K
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> -----Original Message-----
> > > > >>>> From: rhodes22-list-bounces @rhodes22.org
> > > > >>>> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of
> > > > > ;>>> R22RumRunner at aol.com
> > > > >>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2004 6:18 AM
> > > > >>>> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> > > > >>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Can a girlyman be a sailor
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> Answer......NO. That would be an oxymoron.
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> Rummy
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