[Rhodes22-list] What do you do with monsters?

Steve rhodes2282 at yahoo.com
Sat Sep 4 08:19:58 EDT 2004 

Chris
If this is your 2 cents; I would ask for my money
back!!!!!!!!

Chris are you really so stupid that the fact that we
were ready to go to war and had built up our military
so superior to the Soviets; that this was not the
reason we won.  When we started the Star War
initiative; that was the final straw; the soviets did
not have the techonlogy or money brains to complete
with us.  We our spent them, out thought them and had
the balls to back it up.  

I cannot believe you don't know what the Mission
Accomplish ment to the military.  We took over the
country - Mission Accomplish.  The police action will
continue on until the terrorists are killed off but
the good part of that is that the terrorists are in
Iraq.  Where our Military is and where they can handle
it.  

Chris, come on, think a little, you kill the
terrorists until they are no more, or until common
police can handle the problem.  Bending over and
kissing the terrorists ass will do no good.  Talking
to them will do no good.  Waiting on them to cave in
does no good. Killing them solves the problem.  

Chris - I know that all you liberals want everthing to
be happy, pretty, everybody to get alone; you CANNOT
have freedom unless someone is willing to fight & die
for it so that this country can keep FREEDOM.  I know
it tough to think this way; you are social, liberal
type thinkers.  But give me a break, This Bullshit is
to stupid.  The only reason this country is Free - is
because of all the wars we have fought and the fact
that we have a miltary ready to go to war at a second
notice.  This is stupid bullshit.  Can all you
liberals not think a little bit.  

Stan - why are you pushing your liberal thinking out
on this LIST.  You are old enough to know better.  You
should be ashame of yourself. 
Steve





--- Chris Geankoplis <napoli68 at charter.net> wrote:

> My 2 cents:
>                 A couple of questions Steve.  We won
> the cold war by bombing
> the Soviet Union right?  Don't give me the" we were
> ready to fight or
> deterence argument", remember you seem to think any
> action however ill
> thought out is better than thoughtful engagement.
> 
> Good point "Lobbing bombs does no good untill the
> country falls.  Any
> country in paticular? Or just one that is
> convienient.  Oh, that's right we
> did that to Iraq and they fell. Mission
> accomplished!  And look at all the
> terrorist who decided to find another job. (many are
> pushing up daisies
> right now, but we have their 13 cousins standing in
> the dead guys place).
> When one of our kids are killed do you want to give
> it up?  No.  When 1000
> of our kids get killed I don't hear you saying that
> it is time to change
> course.  Well what in hell do you think the Islamic
> terrorists say when we
> kill a mess of them?  "Oh lets give up because we
> are cowards and not
> commited".   There will be no military victory, it
> must be played out on a
> much broader field.  Why do so many people think
> only we will stay the
> course and not be detered by the death of of our
> troops, but those camel
> jockeys will shurly cave in any day?
> Chris G.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Steve <rhodes2282 at yahoo.com>
> To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Date: Friday, September 03, 2004 1:13 PM
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] What do you do with
> monsters?
> 
> 
> >Excellent Wally, I will add this one to the list of
> >liberal cowards!!!!!!!!!
> >Steve
> >
> >PS - When everyone quits fighting; then no one will
> be
> >free.  Freedom is NOT free. Someone has to fight
> for
> >it.  Remember this when you go to vote.  You can't
> >count on a liberal to fight for you.  See
> >below!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> >
> >--- Wally Buck <tnrhodey at hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Steve,
> >>
> >> I am not going to get dragged into another round
> of
> >> politcal emails but
> >> ...... are you saying if one is held up a gun
> point
> >> you advice is to fight
> >> back? Are you serious?
> >>
> >> Even if you are packing heat most of us are not
> real
> >> good on the quick draw.
> >> I don't carry anything in my wallet that is worth
> >> getting shot over. Do you?
> >>
> >> You have posted many emails that show you have a
> >> hard time destinguishing
> >> between bravery and common sense. I will just add
> >> this one to the list.
> >>
> >> Yeah I know, you will tell me that I am just a
> weak
> >> liberal blah blah blah
> >> ......
> >>
> >> Hey I am out of here! Spending tonight on the
> boat,
> >> racing in the morning,
> >> seafood boil and keg part in the evening! I hope
> >> everyone has a great
> >> weekend!
> >>
> >> Wally
> >>
> >> Wally
> >>
> >>
> >> >From: Steve <rhodes2282 at yahoo.com>
> >> >Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> >> <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> >> >To: stan <stan at rhodes22.com>,The Rhodes 22 mail
> >> list
> >> ><rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> >> >Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] What do you do with
> >> monsters?
> >> >Date: Fri, 3 Sep 2004 10:10:44 -0700 (PDT)
> >> >
> >> >Stan
> >> >I just don't understand why so many of you all
> >> worry
> >> >so much about our image overseas.  When push
> comes
> >> to
> >> >shove; This country is the one that the plantet
> >> turns
> >> >to to fix the problem.  The French can win
> >> anything.
> >> >They don't spend enough on weapons.  Germany has
> >> had
> >> >the crap kick out of it twice last century and
> >> doesn't
> >> >have what it takes to do anything.  Beside, as
> the
> >> >Democrates say; the USA still Occupies Germany.
> >> >
> >> >Peace can only remain if a country is willing to
> >> fight
> >> >for it.  We have to fight and take the fight to
> >> them.
> >> >Otherwise, they will bring the fight to us. 
> LIke I
> >> >have said before, you can thank Clinton for the
> >> 3,000
> >> >deaths.  When the terrorists started hammering
> us;
> >> we
> >> >should have fought back.  Lobbing bombs does no
> >> good
> >> >unless it's continueous untill the country
> falls.
> >> >
> >> >Gore would not have retaliated after 911.  Why
> >> anyone
> >> >would think he would is beond me.  After all,
> what
> >> did
> >> >Clinton do.  Gore would have followed Clinton
> lead.
> >> >Kerry would make a lousy President.  He has no
> >> >balls!!!!!!!!!!!  Bottom line.  You can't have a
> >> >President like Kerry in time of war that worries
> >> about
> >> >making people mad.
> >> >
> >> >Terrorism is not climing.  We are killing the
> hell
> >> out
> >> >of them.  Last I heard, our kill ratio is like
> way
> >> >over 20 to 1.  Sometimes we kill hundreds of
> them &
> >> >maybe only lose 1 of ours.  That great for a
> war.
> >> You
> >> >can't ask for better ratio than that.
> >> >
> >> >Just so everyone know, the only way to make
> >> terrorists
> >> >act right is kill them.  They act just find when
> >> thier
> >> >dead.  And we don't have to rebuild anything,
> what
> >> we
> >> >are doing in Agfan & Iraq is more than enough. 
> We
> >> >will help them alone and eventually it will get
> >> >rebuilt.  And it don't hurt to let them rebuilt
> it
> >> >themselves.  Nothing says we have to do it all
> for
> >> >them.
> >> >
> >> >Also, the biggest thing that helping in the war
> on
> >> >terrorism; is the fact that we have a BIG
> miltary
> >> >present over in the middle east.  Fully ready to
> >> beat
> >> >the crap out of any country.
> >> >
> >> >Anyway, this is a waist of my time but I don't
> want
> >> >this list to be totally without at least one
> >> senable
> >> >view on how the world works.  If you are ever
> held
> >> up
> >> >and someone has a gun in your face, do you
> coward
> >> down
> >> >or fight back!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  Life is not worst
> >> living
> >> >as a coward.
> >> >Steve
> >> >
> >> >--- stan <stan at rhodes22.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > love politics
> >> > >
> >> > > My grandkids visited the twin towers a day
> >> before
> >> > > they collapsed
> >> > >
> >> > > Nonetheless, this should not be a one issue
> >> election
> >> > > nor is there any proof
> >> > > that no one else could have done a better job
> >> > > fighting terrorism after the
> >> > > act, than Bush.  For instance, if you would
> have
> >> > > made me dictator I would
> >> > > have used all that money to finish what we
> >> started
> >> > > in Afghanistan and turned
> >> > > that into a model country to soften the "Ugly
> >> > > American" image.  I won't
> >> > > argue the amount but will argue the
> direction:
> >> Not
> >> > > following the usual
> >> > > American premature bailout policy and instead
> >> > > properly implementing our
> >> > > stated goals for Afghanistan, would have cut
> the
> >> > > rate of terrorists
> >> > > recruitment - now climbing and so increasing
> our
> >> > > need to fight terrorism
> >> > > more and more.
> >> > >
> >> > > Like so many religions, acting like we are
> the
> >> only
> >> > > ones with the right
> >> > > answer is a sign of the planet's immaturity. 
> If
> >> we
> >> > > are lucky, we might live
> >> > > to grow up.  But I doubt it - unless you get
> to
> >> work
> >> > > on those placards:
> >> > > Spitzer for Dictator, He is the only one with
> >> the
> >> > > right answers.
> >> > >
> >> > >     (that's the problem with dictators - they
> >> get
> >> > > carried away - anyone got
> >> > > a better answer - or at least, anyone for
> >> tennis?
> >> > > One of the richest
> >> > > prospects I ever met said to me, "It is too
> >> late,
> >> > > enjoy yourself.").
> >> > >
> >> > > stan/gbi
> >> > >
> >> > > ----- Original Message -----
> >> > > From: "Gardner, Douglas (LNG-DAY)"
> >> > > <douglas.gardner at lexisnexis.com>
> >> > > To: "'The Rhodes 22 mail list'"
> >> > > <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> >> > > Sent: Friday, September 03, 2004 10:02 AM
> >> > > Subject: [Rhodes22-list] What do you do with
> >> > > monsters?
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > > While we're so focused on Bush attacking
> >> Kerry's
> >> > > service in vietnam, and
> >> > > > Kerry attacking Bush & Cheney's avoidance
> of
> >> > > service in vietnam, I'd like
> >> > > > to
> >> > > > point to Russia for a second:
> >> > > >
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/3624024.stm
> >> > > >
> >> > > > and ask a question: What do you do with
> people
> >> who
> >> > > believe killing
> >> > > > children
> >> > > > is a good way to get sympathy for their
> cause?
> >> > > >
> >> > > > I'll leave my comments at the question.
> >> Because
> >> > > right now, my own
> >> > > > thoughts
> >> > > > on this matter are simply too ugly to write
> >> down,
> >> > > and certainly too ugly
> >> > > > to
> >> > > > broadcast in public.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > After my anger subsides a bit, I might
> return
> >> to
> >> > > my beliefs in the rights
> >> > > > afforded to people in our Constitution and
> the
> >> > > Bill of Rights, the
> >> > > > importance of due process, and my beliefs
> that
> >> you
> >> > > must not punish a
> >> > > > person
> >> > > > for the offenses of another.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > For now, I'll let my anger seethe and
> wonder
> >> what
> >> > > kind of pathological
> >> > > > society or religion could allow these kinds
> of
> >> > > acts to go unpunished.
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > > --Doug
> >> > > >
> >> > > > PS: lest anyone be confused... no, I do not
> >> intend
> >> > > this message to imply I
> >> > > > support Bush. Please see my references to
> the
> >> > > constitution and bill of
> >> > > > rights before you infer who I support for
> >> > > president. My preferred
> >> > > > candidate
> >> > > > isn't running. You cannot defeat hate and
> >> > > injustice with more hate and
> >> > > > more
> >> > > > injustice.  I'll speak no more on that
> subject
> >> in
> >> > > this forum.
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >>
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