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[stan]

Point of Information::

When bills or resolutions, etc are up for votes in congress, riders can be 
attached forcing a thinking lawmaker's desire to vote one way on an issue, 
to be changed because he or she is not in favor of the rider. So congress 
people do vote one way and then are forced to "flip flop" on the same issue 
when it is effectively changed by the rider.  The Republican side of the 
isle does it - even vp Cheney.  Not uncommon.

However, the Republicans are brilliant.  They know everyone but the simple 
folk understand this so they make flip flop a campaign theme.  Just like the 
war record issue were they know everyone but the simple folks understand 
Bush bought his way out of harm's way while Kerry faced the bullets and then 
decided the cause was a mistake and flipped flopped over it, so they make 
use of the left behind group to make the two war records a campaign issue. 
(not so sure they will get away  with it in this instance - too obvious, 
even to the blindly faithful  - plus many Republicans like John McCain, 
can't stomach it .)

I still think money, being the bottom line in our society, makes betting the 
way for the List to handle problem members.  Let's bet.

For instance we could bet on the sincerity of those in favor this war. If 
they are willing to join a "Lincoln" like brigade to fight terrorists in 
Iraq tomorrow, they win.  (The list could chip in and pay their expenses 
from a standing pot)  If they lose they have to add to the List's betting 
pot.

And we could bet on the factual "flip flop" charges by having those like 
Bush and Steve, who accuse Kerry of this crime, vs. those like myself who 
say that if you count Bush's campaign promises and career remarks, he is the 
"flip flopper" winner, contribute to the pot - have the pot pay for an 
independent accounting and the balance go to the winner.   That would be the 
civilized way to go.

So my suggestion is not to impose censorship but to refine the rules to:

If you have an opinion, it has to proceed with a remark like, " in my humble 
opinion, you are an asshole".

and statements proclaimed as factual, be accompanied by contributions to the 
betting pool,  like  " Kerry is the bigger flip flopper and the facts will 
prove that so here is my contribution to the betting pool"   And the paid 
factual team goes to work and the winner takes what is left in the pool.  I 
bet the compilation of the verifiable facts could be sold to the media or 
published and the List could eventually make a fortune.  Bill will get us a 
publisher.and an advance.  Let's start betting and put our money where our 
loose tongues are. .

An aside: Bush lost the election by a substantial number of the popular 
vote.  I would not be so quick in ceding the election to him this time. 
Those who understand and quiver (a cowards opinion and so labeled) at where 
he is leading the country tend to be quieter than those in favor.

Of course there are exceptions to those from the left being "quieter". Wanna 
bet.
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stan/gbi

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Steve Alm" <salm at mn.rr.com>
To: "Rhodes" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2004 9:45 PM
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] List Administrator See All


> Wally,
> You see, Steve is an analyst for the government.  Hope that clears things
> up.
> Slim
>
>