[Rhodes22-list] Ocean Sailing

[Richard Smith]

If he was to build one it would be like the North Sea Cutter.  The ultimate
small passage maker!

Richard Smith

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From: <eric.charles.newburger at census.gov>
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> Hmmmm.......an ocean going boat by GB....hmmmm........
> Seems like, just reading the emails so far, that you'd have to reduce the
> cockpit size, add a bridge deck, change the bow to add more
boyancy...we're
> talking about a different boat.   So...perhaps this new thread shouldn't
> be, "what to do to the Rhodes 22", but rather, should be, "What do we want
> Stan to build into a new ocean going boat for us?"
>
> What LOA?
> What gear?
> What features?
> What manner of keel?
>
> Like that.
>
> Stan, you're up for starting a whole new line, right?
>
> Eric
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> > ...if he'd had a dime more he would have bought bigger...
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> For less than a dime more he could have bought a LOT bigger.  We started
> out shopping for a Flicka and ended up sailing an R22.  No doubt, Flicka's
> a lovely little boat, but there is nothing in its class on the water, new
> or used, that costs more per ton of displacement.
>
> On the other hand, there is still a flock of under-30-footers that can and
> have done circumnavigations, even in the hands of teen-agers; Tania Aebi
in
> Varuna and Robin Lee Graham in Dove come to mind.
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> How about a new thread discussing the industrial strength mods required to
> build a passage-making R22?  (The "new 22" ?)   Politics is getting old.
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> <G>
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <eric.charles.newburger at census.gov>
> To: "Richard Smith" <sailnut at worldnet.att.net>; "The Rhodes 22 mail list"
> <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Sent: Friday, September 10, 2004 10:14 AM
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Ocean Sailing
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> > About three years ago I met a fellow who single-handed from California
to
> > French Polynesia and back on a Flika (if I am remembering the name
> > correctly).  I asked him a few questions and read his book.  He
survived,
> > and took pride in his accomplishment.   But he did not have a good time
> out
> > there.
> >
> > This was a 20 foot boat designed for blue water passages and built by
> > Pacific Seacraft---thick hull, much heavier ballast than a Rhodes and
> more
> > stable, lots of storage spaces and a tiny cockpit--this boat was
> basically
> > a barrel with a sail attached.  It looked neat, and worked, and his wife
> > flew out to meet him, and--during their island hopping--they had a grand
> > time.  Overall, he loved the trip.
> >
> > However, he was quite clear on two points....
> > 1.  He got the crap beaten out of him on the blue water crossings.  Even
> in
> > heavy boat for it's size, 20 feet just didn't provide a lot of
protection
> > from ocean wave action.  He was a middle aged guy and felt every bruise
> for
> > a good while, and if he'd had a dime more he would have bought bigger.
> > 2.  Amidst the safety gear and repair gear and spare sails and the rest
> of
> > the stuff the boat had to have, he had a tough time storing enough food
> and
> > water for himself on the long passages.  Had his wife gone along for the
> > blue water trips, they would have had to ration pretty tightly.  They
> could
> > have done it, but again, his message was that even a little bigger would
> > have been more comfortable.
> >
> > I would like to conclude my lecture by leaving you with the following
> > thought about proper boat size for blue water.....
> > Good gracious, man!  Even the Pardeys have moved into a 30 footer!
> >
> > Thank you, and good morning,
> >
> > Eric Newburger
> >
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