[Rhodes22-list] Genoa too long for my GBI furling tube

[Roger Pihlaja]

Rik,

Thanks, I get it!

Roger Pihlaja
S/V Dynamic Equilibrium

----- Original Message -----
From: "Rik Sandberg" <sanderico at earthlink.net>
To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Sent: Monday, September 20, 2004 10:38 PM
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Genoa too long for my GBI furling tube


> Roger,
>
> Doug Gardener has a CDI on his R22. When he came down to KY Lake with it
> a couple years back, he came with the furler/sail tied to the mast,
> pretty much like the normal GBI setup, except it hung past the end of
> the mast about 2 feet. The only difference in how he had to do it was,
> he had a piece of lumber about 3 feet long (2x2, I think) that he had
> fit so it slid into the foot of the mast once it was down and laid on
> the bow pulpit. This piece of lumber stuck out of the foot of the mast
> about 2 feet. Doug tied the over hanging end of his CDI to this piece of
> lumber to stabilize it for transport. It seemed quite a simple and
> effective solution to the problem.
>
> Rik
>
> Roger Pihlaja wrote:
>
> >Mark,
> >
> >OK, thank-you, now I understand!  I will have to look at doing something
> >like this with my Harken Unit 0 roller furler.  If I could avoid having
to
> >connect & disconnect the forestay from the masthead when I trailer
Dynamic
> >Equilibrium, it would significantly speed up my rigging/unrigging
process.
> >
> >So Bob, if you are still listening to all of this; go to the hardware
store
> >& buy a piece of aluminum tubing with the same OD as your furling tube.
Cut
> >this tube to the additional length required on your forestay.  Take your
> >present furling tube to a welding shop that specializes in MIG welding of
> >aluminum & have them weld the additional tubing onto the end of your
present
> >furling tube.  Tell the welder that the joint is going to be subject to a
> >combination of tension, compression, & torsional loading & that you need
> >100% weld penetration.  Be sure to have them grind the weld joint smooth.
> >This will provide the additional luff length you want for your oversize
> >genoa.
> >
> >But now, if you don't disconnect the forestay from the masthead, the
furling
> >drum will stick out about 2 feet beyond the butt end of the mast when you
> >trailer the boat.  The furling drum will be supported only by the furling
> >tube as a cantilever load.  The furling tube wasn't designed to be loaded
in
> >that manner.  The furling tube isn't sufficiently strong to tolerate this
> >sort of load for very long.  If you don't support the furling drum; then,
> >you may bend your furling tube as you drive down the road due to
aerodynamic
> >loading & vibration.  I would expect the furling tube will crack & fail
in a
> >short cycle fatigue mode if you don't support the furling drum.  So, for
> >trailering, go back to the hardware store & buy yourself a piece of PVC
pipe
> >or a piece of wood that fits tightly into the butt end of your mast.  You
> >will have to rig up a way to secure your furling drum to this PVC pipe or
> >piece of wood when it is sticking out of the butt end of the mast -
> >something as simple as a bungee cord would probably work just fine.
> >
> >Roger Pihlaja
> >S/V Dynamic Equilibrium
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Mark Kaynor" <mark at kaynor.org>
> >To: "'The Rhodes 22 mail list'" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> >Sent: Monday, September 20, 2004 8:00 PM
> >Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Genoa too long for my GBI furling tube
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >>Roger,
> >>
> >>As an owner of the CDI furler, I think Rummy is saying that the CDI
furler
> >>foil is cut to be just short of the upper end of the forestay. When you
> >>lower the mast, the furler sticks out a couple of feet beyond the base
of
> >>the mast. The solution for transporting it is to stick a piece of wood,
a
> >>piece of PVC, etc. up into the mast such that an amount approximately
> >>
> >>
> >equal
> >
> >
> >>to the "extra" length of the CDI furler to support the furling drum. The
> >>excess foil / drum is then tied to the support.
> >>
> >>Mark Kaynor
> >>
> >>-----Original Message-----
> >>From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> >>[mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Roger Pihlaja
> >>Sent: Monday, September 20, 2004 7:50 PM
> >>To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> >>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Genoa too long for my GBI furling tube
> >>
> >>Rummy,
> >>
> >>I'm not following your explanation; but, it doesn't matter.  The real
> >>question is; In your opinion, is this a viable solution for Bob?
> >>
> >>Roger
> >>
> >>----- Original Message -----
> >>From: <R22RumRunner at aol.com>
> >>To: <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> >>Sent: Monday, September 20, 2004 5:02 PM
> >>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Genoa too long for my GBI furling tube
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>Roger,
> >>>The new CDI furling drum that is coming from the factory is longer in
> >>>the manner you described. They dealt with the extra length by using a
> >>>piece of
> >>>
> >>>
> >>PVC
> >>
> >>
> >>>inserted into the mast and then tie the extra length to it. This way
> >>>the entire  length can be supported for transit.
> >>>
> >>>Rummy
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