[Rhodes22-list] Genoa too long for my GBI furling tube

[Todd Tavares]

   Bob,

       I'd like to add one additional suggestion to Roger's post.   Try
   to find a piece of aluminum tubing that will fit tightly inside the
   furling tube.  Cut a length of this tube approximately four inches
   long.  This section should be slid inside the furling tube and extend
   at least two inches into each of the furling tube and the add on
   section.  Have the welder put a couple of "rosette" welds on either
   side of the joint to be welded.  Roger may think this is overkill
   but,  better to be safe than sorry.

   Todd

   ----- Original Message -----
   From: "Roger Pihlaja"
   Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2004 22:03:17 -0400
   To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list"
   Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Genoa too long for my GBI furling tube
   > Mark,
   >
   > OK, thank-you, now I understand! I will have to look at doing
   something
   > like this with my Harken Unit 0 roller furler. If I could avoid
   having to
   > connect & disconnect the forestay from the masthead when I trailer
   Dynamic
   > Equilibrium, it would significantly speed up my rigging/unrigging
   process.
   >
   > So Bob, if you are still listening to all of this; go to the
   hardware store
   > & buy a piece of aluminum tubing with the same OD as your furling
   tube. Cut
   > this tube to the additional length required on your forestay. Take
   your
   > present furling tube to a welding shop that specializes in MIG
   welding of
   > aluminum &a mp; have them weld the additional tubing onto the end of
   your present
   > furling tube. Tell the welder that the joint is going to be subject
   to a
   > combination of tension, compression, & torsional loading & that you
   need
   > 100% weld penetration. Be sure to have them grind the weld joint
   smooth.
   > This will provide the additional luff length you want for your
   oversize
   > genoa.
   >
   > But now, if you don't disconnect the forestay from the masthead, the
   furling
   > drum will stick out about 2 feet beyond the butt end of the mast
   when you
   > trailer the boat. The furling drum will be supported only by the
   furling
   > tube as a cantilever load. The furling tube wasn't designed to be
   loaded in
   > that manner. The furling tube isn't sufficiently strong to tolerate
   this
   > sort of load for very long. If you don't support the furling drum;
   then,
   > you may bend your furling tube as you drive down t he road due to
   aerodynamic
   > loading & vibration. I would expect the furling tube will crack &
   fail in a
   > short cycle fatigue mode if you don't support the furling drum. So,
   for
   > trailering, go back to the hardware store & buy yourself a piece of
   PVC pipe
   > or a piece of wood that fits tightly into the butt end of your mast.
   You
   > will have to rig up a way to secure your furling drum to this PVC
   pipe or
   > piece of wood when it is sticking out of the butt end of the mast -
   > something as simple as a bungee cord would probably work just fine.
   >
   > Roger Pihlaja
   > S/V Dynamic Equilibrium
   >
   > ----- Original Message -----
   > From: "Mark Kaynor"
   > To: "'The Rhodes 22 mail list'"
   > Sent: Monday, September 20, 2004 8:00 PM
   > Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Genoa too long for my GBI furling tube
   >
   >
   > ; > Roger,
   > >
   > > As an owner of the CDI furler, I think Rummy is saying that the
   CDI furler
   > > foil is cut to be just short of the upper end of the forestay.
   When you
   > > lower the mast, the furler sticks out a couple of feet beyond the
   base of
   > > the mast. The solution for transporting it is to stick a piece of
   wood, a
   > > piece of PVC, etc. up into the mast such that an amount
   approximately
   > equal
   > > to the "extra" length of the CDI furler to support the furling
   drum. The
   > > excess foil / drum is then tied to the support.
   > >
   > > Mark Kaynor
   > >
   > > -----Original Message-----
   > > From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
   > > [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Roger
   Pihlaja
   > > Sent: Monday, September 20, 2004 7:50 PM
   > > To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
   > > Subject: Re: [Rh odes22-list] Genoa too long for my GBI furling
   tube
   > >
   > > Rummy,
   > >
   > > I'm not following your explanation; but, it doesn't matter. The
   real
   > > question is; In your opinion, is this a viable solution for Bob?
   > >
   > > Roger
   > >
   > > ----- Original Message -----
   > > From:
   > > To:
   > > Sent: Monday, September 20, 2004 5:02 PM
   > > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Genoa too long for my GBI furling
   tube
   > >
   > >
   > > > Roger,
   > > > The new CDI furling drum that is coming from the factory is
   longer in
   > > > the manner you described. They dealt with the extra length by
   using a
   > > > piece of
   > > PVC
   > > > inserted into the mast and then tie the extra length to it. This
   way
   > > > the entire length can be supported for transit.
   > > >
   > > > Rummy
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